Fake NFL Star, AI Romance Scams & The Dating Games We Play | 339

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Is Everybody Scamming? Dating Games, Fake Flexes And AI Cons 🚨💸🔍

Bruce Anthony: Everybody [00:00:01] is [00:00:02] scamming. Should we [00:00:03] join? [00:00:04] We gonna get into [00:00:05] it. Let's [00:00:06] get [00:00:07] it

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Bruce Anthony: [00:00:18] Welcome. [00:00:19] First of all, [00:00:20] welcome. This is Unsolicited [00:00:21] Perspectives. I am [00:00:22] your host, Bruce [00:00:23] Anthony, here to lead the [00:00:24] conversation in [00:00:25] important events and [00:00:26] topics that are [00:00:27] shaping today's society. [00:00:28] Join the [00:00:29] conversation and follow us [00:00:30] wherever you get your audio [00:00:31] podcasts.

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Bruce Anthony: [00:01:02] [00:01:03] [00:01:04] [00:01:05] [00:01:06] [00:01:07] [00:01:08] [00:01:09] [00:01:10] What up, sis?[00:01:11]

Jay Aundrea: What up, brother?

Bruce Anthony: [00:01:12] I can't call [00:01:13] it, I can't call [00:01:14] it. I had an [00:01:15] interesting [00:01:16] [00:01:17] conversation

Jay Aundrea: [00:01:18] Okay

Bruce Anthony: with [00:01:19] somebody the other [00:01:20] day, [00:01:21] and I'm gonna [00:01:22] let a little bit of my [00:01:23] personal life [00:01:24] come out on [00:01:25] this episode.[00:01:26]

Jay Aundrea: It's rare, but it [00:01:27] happens

Bruce Anthony: rare, but [00:01:28] this happens. A- [00:01:29] and, and we've talked [00:01:30] about [00:01:31] this subject [00:01:32] before,[00:01:33]

Jay Aundrea: Okay[00:01:34] [00:01:35]

Bruce Anthony: but I have a [00:01:36] different [00:01:37] [00:01:38] angle that I wanna [00:01:39] hit on [00:01:40] it.

Jay Aundrea: Sure. Okay[00:01:41]

Bruce Anthony: So I had a [00:01:42] friend who [00:01:43] introduced me [00:01:44] to her [00:01:45] friend

Jay Aundrea: [00:01:46] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: and [00:01:47] [00:01:48] hook us up,

Jay Aundrea: a, [00:01:49] make a connection.[00:01:50]

Bruce Anthony: a love [00:01:51] connection, right?

Jay Aundrea: Right[00:01:52]

Bruce Anthony: [00:01:53] And the [00:01:54] connection didn't connect. [00:01:55] Like, it [00:01:56] was-- the, the, the [00:01:57] physical [00:01:58] attractiveness was [00:01:59] there. The [00:02:00] physical chemistry was [00:02:01] there. [00:02:02] Uh, you could [00:02:03] tell that we only hung [00:02:04] out a couple times. [00:02:05] You could tell that, [00:02:06] like, immediately, [00:02:07] like, okay, we [00:02:08] feeling each other physically.

[00:02:09] But as we [00:02:10] got to talk to [00:02:11]

The Setup Date That Fizzled: Great Chemistry, No Real Future 💔😅🤷

Bruce Anthony: each other more, [00:02:12] there weren't [00:02:13] anything like, I [00:02:14] think this person is [00:02:15] horrible, or this person [00:02:16] thinks I'm horrible.[00:02:17]

Jay Aundrea: It just [00:02:18] wasn't clicking

Bruce Anthony: it's just [00:02:19] not gonna-- it's not [00:02:20] going to [00:02:21] long-term click, [00:02:22] right? And I'm at an age [00:02:23] now, ain't no re- [00:02:24] I, I done did enough [00:02:25] short-term [00:02:26] situationships, don't need to do it[00:02:27]

Jay Aundrea: Yeah, [00:02:28] we're done. We're done [00:02:29] with those

Bruce Anthony: [00:02:30] So I backed away, [00:02:31] right?

I didn't [00:02:32] feel like there needed to [00:02:33] be a conversation [00:02:34] after only really hanging out with [00:02:35] the person [00:02:36] twice.

Jay Aundrea: [00:02:37] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: So [00:02:38] just, you know, we're [00:02:39] still [00:02:40] friendly, just [00:02:41] we don't hang [00:02:42] out.

Jay Aundrea: You're [00:02:43] right

Bruce Anthony: [00:02:44] So s- my [00:02:45] friend that introduced us [00:02:46] hit me up the other day and was like, [00:02:47] "I got another f- friend I [00:02:48] wanna introduce you to."[00:02:49]

Jay Aundrea: Listen. Listen. All

Bruce Anthony: like, "We're [00:02:50] gonna try this again [00:02:51] when the last one didn't work [00:02:52] out, but okay. [00:02:53] All right." [00:02:54] [00:02:55] Uh, [00:02:56] and, and [00:02:57] my [00:02:58] friend said [00:02:59] that the other [00:03:00] woman that she introduced me [00:03:01] to was basically [00:03:02] like, yeah, he [00:03:03] wasn't... [00:03:04] I forget what the [00:03:05] exact term [00:03:06] was, but that he [00:03:07] wasn't a [00:03:08] planner, didn't make [00:03:09] plans, didn't, [00:03:10] didn't, didn't show,[00:03:11]

Jay Aundrea: is the first [00:03:12] woman.

Bruce Anthony: This is the first [00:03:13] woman, that I didn't [00:03:14] show, [00:03:15] um, not [00:03:16] aggression,

Jay Aundrea: [00:03:17] Initiative, [00:03:18] but just like you, [00:03:19] you didn't [00:03:20] pursue. You didn't pursue.

Bruce Anthony: [00:03:21] like I didn't [00:03:22] pursue.

And [00:03:23] then I was like, oh, [00:03:24] okay. I, [00:03:25] I never said [00:03:26] anything 'cause [00:03:27] this [00:03:28] person, my friend, we're a [00:03:29] mutual friend, so [00:03:30] I didn't say [00:03:31] anything. I was just like, [00:03:32] okay, whatever. [00:03:33] Uh, the [00:03:34] reason why we didn't talk, I [00:03:35] just said things didn't work out. But [00:03:36] this person wanted [00:03:37] to give sort of [00:03:38] specifics and kind of [00:03:39] put the blame on me.[00:03:40]

I [00:03:41] felt a little type of way [00:03:42] about it 'cause I don't [00:03:43] want dirt [00:03:44] on my name out [00:03:45] there in the streets. [00:03:46] But [00:03:47] ultimately, I don't [00:03:48] care.

Jay Aundrea: [00:03:49] Yes

Bruce Anthony: So [00:03:50]

Do Men Lack Initiative In Dating? Bruce Sets The Record Straight 🙋🔥💬

Bruce Anthony: my [00:03:51] friend, when [00:03:52] relaying this message to me, [00:03:53] I was like, "Oh, okay." [00:03:54] And then [00:03:55] my friend said, "What's [00:03:56] wrong with you [00:03:57] guys and [00:03:58] dating? [00:03:59] It's like [00:04:00] nobody is showing [00:04:01] initiative. [00:04:02] Nobody is making plans."

I [00:04:03] said, "Hold on. [00:04:04] That's not [00:04:05] true." [00:04:06] Men [00:04:07] absolutely do those [00:04:08] things

Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:04:09] when they're [00:04:10] interested in the woman.

Jay Aundrea: [00:04:11] Right[00:04:12]

Bruce Anthony: A- and, and [00:04:13] women are [00:04:14] out there, [00:04:15] it-- because my friend [00:04:16] was like, "Oh." [00:04:17] And I was like, women [00:04:18] are out there thinking [00:04:19] that men are [00:04:20] just lazy and, and [00:04:21] granted, [00:04:22] sometimes men are, [00:04:23] right?

Jay Aundrea: some, [00:04:24] some of y'all are.[00:04:25]

Bruce Anthony: But [00:04:26] also [00:04:27] when we actually [00:04:28] care, [00:04:29] oh, [00:04:30] we'll go to the ends [00:04:31] of the earth for [00:04:32] that person.

We'll do [00:04:33] whatever they wanna do. [00:04:34] We'll fly 'em out on trips. [00:04:35] Like we'll do, we'll [00:04:36] plan, we'll do [00:04:37] extravagant [00:04:38] things. Just look at [00:04:39] [00:04:40] proposals that men do. [00:04:41] Like men [00:04:42] will [00:04:43] absolutely can plan and [00:04:44] will do.[00:04:45]

Jay Aundrea: There was a [00:04:46] whole movie [00:04:47] [00:04:48] called "He's Just Not That [00:04:49] Into You,"

Bruce Anthony: Yeah.[00:04:50]

Jay Aundrea: and, and [00:04:51] women [00:04:52] still [00:04:53] have such [00:04:54] difficulty with this. [00:04:55] [00:04:56] Um, [00:04:57] I [00:04:58] don't know why[00:04:59]

Bruce Anthony: Um, [00:05:00] [00:05:01] 'cause people want what they [00:05:02] want,

Jay Aundrea: I [00:05:03] guess

Bruce Anthony: people [00:05:04] want what they want. And then [00:05:05] people [00:05:06] create these fantasies in their... [00:05:07] You got fantasies [00:05:08] in your head. They [00:05:09] create these fantasies in [00:05:10] their head, and then they [00:05:11] want, they're like, "This is the [00:05:12] way it should be." [00:05:13] Uh, [00:05:14] and I'm not saying it's [00:05:15] just women. [00:05:16] I'm saying [00:05:17] majority of the [00:05:18] time it

Jay Aundrea: [00:05:19] No, it's definitely-- [00:05:20] No, [00:05:21] let me tell you, [00:05:22] here's where it comes [00:05:23] in, here's [00:05:24] where it's men.

Bruce Anthony: [00:05:25] Okay.

Jay Aundrea: [00:05:26] Rejection[00:05:27]

Bruce Anthony: Mm, [00:05:28] mm-hmm

Jay Aundrea: not [00:05:29] being able to [00:05:30] accept that and [00:05:31] still, like, [00:05:32] pursuing when it's clear. It's like, [00:05:33] "Hey, I don't, I [00:05:34] don't really see you like that." [00:05:35] "I don't understand. [00:05:36] I'm a good [00:05:37] guy. I'm a g-" You know, [00:05:38] that's when it [00:05:39] comes into, and I'm [00:05:40] like, okay, so [00:05:41] everybody's out here delulu[00:05:42]

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. [00:05:43] Okay, that's true. [00:05:44] [00:05:45] Um, I [00:05:46] also said to [00:05:47] my friend, I [00:05:48] was like, "This is just [00:05:49] generally speaking. This [00:05:50] isn't talking about [00:05:51] the particular [00:05:52] situation [00:05:53] that she set [00:05:54] me up with."

Jay Aundrea: [00:05:55] Mm.[00:05:56]

Bruce Anthony: Even though it was. [00:05:57] Um, [00:05:58] and [00:05:59] she might hear this, [00:06:00] but okay, [00:06:01] whatever. Uh, [00:06:02] it is what it is. I'm [00:06:03] 46 years old. I don't really [00:06:04] give a damn if, uh...[00:06:05]

Jay Aundrea: at this point,[00:06:06]

Bruce Anthony: Pump faking, [00:06:07] and I've said this [00:06:08] before,[00:06:09]

Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:06:10] extremely important.[00:06:11]

Jay Aundrea: Yeah

Bruce Anthony: For [00:06:12]

The Pump Fake, First Dates And Who Should Really Pay The Bill 💳🍴😏

Bruce Anthony: those people who don't [00:06:13] understand what pump faking [00:06:14] is, pump faking is when [00:06:15] the bill comes to the [00:06:16] table, the [00:06:17] woman acts [00:06:18] like [00:06:19] she [00:06:20] might split [00:06:21] with or she's [00:06:22] going into her pocket [00:06:23] to [00:06:24] insinuate that they [00:06:25] might go halfsies. Now, [00:06:26] I understand [00:06:27] that men out here are [00:06:28] saying, "Cool."[00:06:29]

Once [00:06:30] again, if that man says, [00:06:31] "Cool[00:06:32]

Jay Aundrea: Pay that [00:06:33] bill and never [00:06:34] call him again.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, that [00:06:35] man, yeah, yeah. [00:06:36] Like, like [00:06:37] we know if [00:06:38] even if we are [00:06:39] broke, like we know what [00:06:40] we have when we go [00:06:41] out with y'all, and [00:06:42] we might, [00:06:43] we might just be [00:06:44] like, "All right, I'm just not gonna [00:06:45] order a whole lot. She [00:06:46] can get whatever she [00:06:47] wants." That's what we do if we [00:06:48] like somebody, [00:06:49] we truly like [00:06:50] somebody. If we like, [00:06:51] "Yeah, we just gonna split," [00:06:52] I'm talking about like the [00:06:53] first couple of dates, [00:06:54] not when y'all been [00:06:55] together.

When y'all [00:06:56] been together,[00:06:57]

Jay Aundrea: It's [00:06:58] usually-- It should be [00:06:59] a mixed bag of [00:07:00] like who pays

Bruce Anthony: [00:07:01] yes. But I'm [00:07:02] talking about like the first couple of [00:07:03] dates. First of all, I'm [00:07:04] old school. [00:07:05] Men always pay on the [00:07:06] first date, and any [00:07:07] date after that, [00:07:08] if you've asked her [00:07:09] out, pay the [00:07:10] bill

Jay Aundrea: Yeah, [00:07:11] it, it's really, [00:07:12] it really should [00:07:13] be the person who [00:07:14] asked

Bruce Anthony: [00:07:15] Should be. [00:07:16] Should be.

Jay Aundrea: [00:07:17] Yeah

Bruce Anthony: [00:07:18] But my friend was [00:07:19] like, who's [00:07:20] from a different [00:07:21] country, was like, [00:07:22] "American men [00:07:23] [00:07:24] are [00:07:25] different because men [00:07:26] [00:07:27] overseas, if women, [00:07:28] like, [00:07:29] offer to pay, they, [00:07:30] they [00:07:31] really get [00:07:32] offended." And I was [00:07:33] like, "Okay, cool. You [00:07:34] in America. [00:07:35] Been here for a long [00:07:36] time. Uh, [00:07:37] w- [00:07:38] we're not gonna get offended. [00:07:39] We're looking [00:07:40] for that.

As a matter of [00:07:41] fact, that ick [00:07:42] that you get when [00:07:43] having to split the check [00:07:44] on the first date [00:07:45] is the same [00:07:46] ick that we [00:07:47] get when the woman [00:07:48] doesn't pop fake."[00:07:49]

Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: And my [00:07:50] friend was like, "Well, I [00:07:51] never, I never reach for my bill [00:07:52] on the first date." I was like, [00:07:53] "Mm. [00:07:54] You might be having a [00:07:55] lot of first dates [00:07:56] [00:07:57] because of that."

[00:07:58] Because I [00:07:59] will give somebody [00:08:00] the benefit of the doubt [00:08:01] on the first date[00:08:02]

Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:08:03] [00:08:04] anxiety, y- you're [00:08:05] nervous, things [00:08:06] are going on

Jay Aundrea: And you, and you also don't [00:08:07] want [00:08:08] to, like, [00:08:09] [00:08:10] emasculate

Bruce Anthony: [00:08:11] I [00:08:12] understand

Jay Aundrea: [00:08:13] by saying, [00:08:14] "We can split it." [00:08:15] You know, 'cause then it's [00:08:16] like, "What, you think I ain't [00:08:17] got it?" Like, [00:08:18] so it's, it's [00:08:19] c- it can [00:08:20] be difficult [00:08:21] to navigate that [00:08:22] situation [00:08:23] [00:08:24] because you don't [00:08:25] wanna insult the [00:08:26] other [00:08:27] person, [00:08:28] um, but you [00:08:29] also don't wanna just [00:08:30] assume [00:08:31] that it's on [00:08:32] them.[00:08:33]

Bruce Anthony: I'm gonna give women a [00:08:34]

A Step By Step Tutorial For The Perfect First Date Pump Fake 👜✅😬

Bruce Anthony: tutorial on how to [00:08:35] do the proper pump fake [00:08:36] because [00:08:37] I, I've [00:08:38] heard women's [00:08:39] responses just [00:08:40] like what you just gave [00:08:41] me, [00:08:42] and that is [00:08:43] valid.

Jay Aundrea: Yeah[00:08:44]

Bruce Anthony: So [00:08:45] all you have to [00:08:46] do is [00:08:47] silently, when the [00:08:48] bill [00:08:49] drops, [00:08:50] [00:08:51] just start [00:08:52] rummaging [00:08:53] around in your purse or your [00:08:54] bag or something.[00:08:55]

Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.[00:08:56]

Bruce Anthony: That's all [00:08:57] you really have to [00:08:58] do.

Might [00:08:59] even go so [00:09:00] far as to pull [00:09:01] out your wallet. [00:09:02] [00:09:03] If he hadn't [00:09:04] said, "Hey, [00:09:05] uh, don't worry about it," 'cause [00:09:06] he might just be focused [00:09:07] on the bill and not seeing [00:09:08] what you're doing. [00:09:09] You don't have [00:09:10] to say anything. [00:09:11] The saying [00:09:12] something [00:09:13] does-- it can, I [00:09:14] guess, for some men [00:09:15] emasculate them, [00:09:16] right? But it's the [00:09:17] movement.

It's, [00:09:18] it's, it's a pump [00:09:19] fake. You know, it's [00:09:20] just like a [00:09:21] basketball. You got the basketball, [00:09:22] you fake it in [00:09:23] one [00:09:24] direction

Jay Aundrea: please explain to people [00:09:25] what a [00:09:26] actual pump

Bruce Anthony: A [00:09:27] pump fake is you got the [00:09:28] ball in your [00:09:29] hands and you [00:09:30] fake the [00:09:31] ball in one direction [00:09:32] like you're going in that [00:09:33] direction, but you're not. [00:09:34] It's a fake, [00:09:35] right? Pump [00:09:36] fake. Just [00:09:37] act like [00:09:38] you're moving [00:09:39] towards your purse.[00:09:40]

He's gonna be [00:09:41] like, "Hey, hey, hey. [00:09:42] No, no, no. Don't wor- [00:09:43] like this is on me. [00:09:44] I, I wanted to take you [00:09:45] out." That's, [00:09:46] for, for men out [00:09:47] there, that's your [00:09:48] response. [00:09:49] You now... [00:09:50] It's a little d- [00:09:51] it's a little [00:09:52] dance. It's a [00:09:53] little dance. [00:09:54] Dating is all [00:09:55] about little [00:09:56] dances, right? [00:09:57] That's [00:09:58] all you gotta do. Women, [00:09:59] you ain't gotta say

Jay Aundrea: [00:10:00] better than me [00:10:01] 'cause I'd [00:10:02] be, 'cause y'all better [00:10:03] than me 'cause I'd be at [00:10:04] the table, as soon as that [00:10:05] bill come, I'd be like, "You got this, [00:10:06] right?"[00:10:07]

Bruce Anthony: [00:10:08] Well, yeah. [00:10:09] [00:10:10] As we [00:10:11] always say, you're the [00:10:12] son our father [00:10:13] always wanted. [00:10:14] Anyway, uh,[00:10:15] [00:10:16] [00:10:17]

Jay Aundrea: And am.[00:10:18]

Bruce Anthony: a- a- [00:10:19] yeah, and, uh, and, [00:10:20] um, [00:10:21] yeah. [00:10:22] So, and I was [00:10:23] explaining that to her, [00:10:24] and I was like, "Yo, this [00:10:25] is, this is a [00:10:26] thing." J- [00:10:27] women have these icks [00:10:28] out there, right? [00:10:29] Men gotta be a certain [00:10:30] height. They [00:10:31] gotta, they gotta carry [00:10:32] themselves a certain way.[00:10:33]

And [00:10:34] I'm not saying this [00:10:35] about all women, [00:10:36] but [00:10:37] when men [00:10:38] have icks, they wanna [00:10:39] have issues [00:10:40] with the icks. [00:10:41] Look, y'all [00:10:42] got yours. [00:10:43] We got [00:10:44] ours. It's [00:10:45] okay. And [00:10:46] if things don't [00:10:47] align, fine. [00:10:48] I've had [00:10:49] way more [00:10:50] relationships [00:10:51] and situations and [00:10:52] dates that didn't work [00:10:53] out than actually did[00:10:54]

Jay Aundrea: Yeah, ' [00:10:55]

Is Every Ended Relationship Truly A Failure? The Siblings Clash 💔🥊😤

Jay Aundrea: cause that's the [00:10:56] scen- that's, [00:10:57] that's how it [00:10:58] works. Like, [00:10:59] [00:11:00] ideally, in an [00:11:01] ideal world, not to [00:11:02] say that I subscribe to [00:11:03] this, but [00:11:04] ideally, [00:11:05] uh, [00:11:06] you're with one [00:11:07] person until you die. [00:11:08] So that means all the [00:11:09] rest of your [00:11:10] relationships are failures, [00:11:11] [00:11:12] that's [00:11:13] just

Bruce Anthony: mm. No, [00:11:14] all your other re-- I don't, [00:11:15] I don't like the word [00:11:16] failure. All

your other [00:11:17] relationships end. [00:11:18] Yeah, they end[00:11:19]

Jay Aundrea: uh, well, [00:11:20] that makes them a failure, [00:11:21] right?

Because the point [00:11:22] of a, the point of a [00:11:23] relationship [00:11:24] [00:11:25] ultimately, like we're [00:11:26] looking for that [00:11:27] person that we're supposed to [00:11:28] spend our life with, [00:11:29] so if it [00:11:30] doesn't end up [00:11:31] that way, then it [00:11:32] didn't hit the goal, [00:11:33] which means...

Bruce Anthony: [00:11:34] Oh, see, I, [00:11:35] see, I think

Jay Aundrea: you [00:11:36] come from-- [00:11:37] See, you come from a [00:11:38] generation where they get [00:11:39] participation trophies.[00:11:40]

Some- it's [00:11:41] either first [00:11:42] place

Bruce Anthony: I don't get it. [00:11:43] No, [00:11:44] I don't. [00:11:45] I, I am the [00:11:46] generation where you [00:11:47] actually had to earn... There [00:11:48] was no participation [00:11:49] trophies. That's [00:11:50] your generation.

Jay Aundrea: that's [00:11:51] my

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, that's [00:11:52] not my generation.[00:11:53]

Jay Aundrea: [00:11:54] but it's like you either [00:11:55] won or you [00:11:56] lost. Like that's, [00:11:57] you either hit [00:11:58] the mark or you [00:11:59] didn't. [00:12:00] And so like [00:12:01] most of your [00:12:02] relationships are [00:12:03] not going to work [00:12:04] out.[00:12:05]

Bruce Anthony: uh, uh, are, [00:12:06] are going to [00:12:07] end. But, [00:12:08] but [00:12:09] all relationships [00:12:10] end, [00:12:11] all of them[00:12:12]

Jay Aundrea: Yeah, [00:12:13] ideally when, when one [00:12:14] of you dies

Bruce Anthony: [00:12:15] But, uh,

Jay Aundrea: that's [00:12:16] what

Bruce Anthony: okay.[00:12:17]

Jay Aundrea: hope is[00:12:18]

Bruce Anthony: I, I don't like [00:12:19] the term failure [00:12:20] because it [00:12:21] means that, uh, [00:12:22] you failed, [00:12:23] [00:12:24] therefore nothing was [00:12:25] gained from being in [00:12:26] it, [00:12:27] and

Jay Aundrea: No, you [00:12:28] learn a lot from [00:12:29] failure[00:12:30] [00:12:31]

Bruce Anthony: Okay.[00:12:32]

Jay Aundrea: You do [00:12:33] learn a lot from

Bruce Anthony: You got... [00:12:34] This is true. [00:12:35] This is true. [00:12:36] [00:12:37] I just don't like the, I [00:12:38] don't like the term

Jay Aundrea: You [00:12:39] don't like the negative [00:12:40] connotation of

Bruce Anthony: I [00:12:41] don't like it

Jay Aundrea: look at the [00:12:42] word failure, [00:12:43] it just means that you didn't [00:12:44] succeed. And [00:12:45] like [00:12:46] yeah, we can [00:12:47] learn

Bruce Anthony: But not [00:12:48] everybody join- [00:12:49] gets into a [00:12:50] situation to be like, "I [00:12:51] want this to be my [00:12:52] forever." Sometimes people get [00:12:53] into a situation and [00:12:54] be like, "I want this to be [00:12:55] my right now." [00:12:56] And then in that

[00:12:57] sense,

Jay Aundrea: and I would say [00:12:58] that's nine, [00:12:59] nine times out of 10, [00:13:00] that is what the-- [00:13:01] that is the [00:13:02] intent. I'm saying, [00:13:03] and [00:13:04] ideally, [00:13:05] ideally [00:13:06] most of your [00:13:07] [00:13:08] [00:13:09] 99.99999% of [00:13:10] relationships are [00:13:11] not gonna work out [00:13:12] because the [00:13:13] i- the [00:13:14] hope is that you [00:13:15] just have the [00:13:16] one. [00:13:17] Uh, now is that a [00:13:18] reality? [00:13:19] No.

Bruce Anthony: [00:13:20] Mm-mm. I've [00:13:21] had many [00:13:22] relationships that have ended, [00:13:23] [00:13:24] but I've learned a [00:13:25] lot from them. [00:13:26] [00:13:27] So [00:13:28] yeah, I-

Jay Aundrea: [00:13:29] learn, I still think [00:13:30] you learn, I [00:13:31] honestly think you learn more from [00:13:32] your failures than you [00:13:33] do from your

Bruce Anthony: Oh, [00:13:34] absolutely. I [00:13:35] would throw this [00:13:36] down and be like, "Hey [00:13:37] everybody, leave [00:13:38] your comment about what you [00:13:39] think about my [00:13:40] situation." But I'm gonna be real honest [00:13:41] with you, you can. I don't [00:13:42] really give a shit. I, [00:13:43] I'll just be [00:13:44] real honest, I [00:13:45] don't care. Like, [00:13:46] look,

Jay Aundrea: [00:13:47] Oh,

Bruce Anthony: when my-[00:13:48]

Jay Aundrea: is the ultimate [00:13:49] question whether you should go [00:13:50] out with the second [00:13:51] person?

Bruce Anthony: [00:13:52] Well, no. So [00:13:53] when I broke it [00:13:54] down for my friend, [00:13:55] I was like, "Oh, you're having [00:13:56] reservations in introducing me [00:13:57] to your second friend, aren't you?" [00:13:58] She's like, [00:13:59] "Honestly, yep." And I was [00:14:00] like, "Cool, we-- You ain't [00:14:01] got to."

Jay Aundrea: you [00:14:02] don't have

Bruce Anthony: I'm not [00:14:03] d- knocking [00:14:04] down the [00:14:05] doors to be [00:14:06] introduced to [00:14:07] people. Let's [00:14:08] be honest, ladies and [00:14:09] gentlemen, [00:14:10] I'm a [00:14:11] decent-looking dude.[00:14:12]

Odds [00:14:13] are I could walk out [00:14:14] there on the street and [00:14:15] meet somebody. You [00:14:16] know how I know this to be [00:14:17] true? 'Cause [00:14:18] this happens [00:14:19] thousands of [00:14:20] times, okay? [00:14:21] It, it is not hard for [00:14:22] me to meet people. [00:14:23] I am a [00:14:24] personable person, [00:14:25] even though I'm an introvert. Don't [00:14:26] ask me to explain it, [00:14:27] it just is what it is. [00:14:28] So I [00:14:29] can meet people, [00:14:30] and I [00:14:31] don't have no [00:14:32] problem meeting women.

[00:14:33] I don't need nobody to [00:14:34] set me up. So if [00:14:35] my friend doesn't wanna [00:14:36] set me up, [00:14:37] okay. [00:14:38] Don't really [00:14:39] care.

Jay Aundrea: her track [00:14:40] record is not that great [00:14:41] anyway,

Bruce Anthony: No, she [00:14:42] ha- it was one for [00:14:43] one, and, [00:14:44] and, and [00:14:45] she wasn't [00:14:46] wrong [00:14:47] in that [00:14:48] the [00:14:49] personalities [00:14:50] mixed, the [00:14:51] physical attractiveness [00:14:52] was [00:14:53] there, it just, [00:14:54] I [00:14:55] knew that, okay, [00:14:56] our, [00:14:57] our-- [00:14:58] what we

Jay Aundrea: one to Spark[00:14:59]

Bruce Anthony: what... Yeah. [00:15:00] Uh, uh, w- [00:15:01] what we want out [00:15:02] of life is, it-- [00:15:03] that's [00:15:04] what I look at [00:15:05] nowadays.

What, what i- what [00:15:06]

Chasing Money Versus Staying A True Artist Who Can't Be Bought 🎨💰🚫

Bruce Anthony: is it that you want out [00:15:07] of life? [00:15:08] And I'm [00:15:09] not somebody, [00:15:10] quite frankly, [00:15:11] not to say this person [00:15:12] is, but I'm just [00:15:13] generally speaking, [00:15:14] I'm not somebody [00:15:15] who really gives a damn about [00:15:16] money. [00:15:17] Not in the [00:15:18] standpoint where [00:15:19] I'm [00:15:20] chasing money.

Jay Aundrea: [00:15:21] Right[00:15:22]

Bruce Anthony: I, I feel [00:15:23] like, this [00:15:24] is just my personal [00:15:25] opinion, [00:15:26] when [00:15:27] people chase [00:15:28] money, [00:15:29] [00:15:30] they-- their [00:15:31] morals are up [00:15:32] for sale.[00:15:33]

Their [00:15:34] principles and morals [00:15:35] are up for sale[00:15:36]

Jay Aundrea: [00:15:37] Certainly the [00:15:38] dignity is, [00:15:39] especially if you work in [00:15:40] corporate

Bruce Anthony: [00:15:41] Uh, okay. [00:15:42] [00:15:43] And, [00:15:44] and I [00:15:45] think the heart of me, [00:15:46] I truly [00:15:47] am an artist, [00:15:48] right? [00:15:49] Like that's, [00:15:50] that's what I am. I'm [00:15:51] a artist. [00:15:52] So [00:15:53] there's no [00:15:54] [00:15:55] [00:15:56] amount of money [00:15:57] that you could put [00:15:58] on my art [00:15:59] that would make [00:16:00] me suppress my [00:16:01] art to form it [00:16:02] to what you want [00:16:03] it to be, where there's [00:16:04] a lot of people out [00:16:05] there that will do that [00:16:06] all the [00:16:07] time.

[00:16:08] Um, [00:16:09] and I'm just not...[00:16:10]

Jay Aundrea: You can't be bought. You can't be bought

Bruce Anthony: [00:16:11] Yeah, somebody said [00:16:12] something crazy to me one [00:16:13] time, and [00:16:14] it was like [00:16:15] homosexual acts, [00:16:16] right? And it [00:16:17] was, um, [00:16:18] like, "If [00:16:19] somebody paid you this amount [00:16:20] of money, would you do it? [00:16:21] This amount of money, would you do it?" [00:16:22] And I'm like, "I'm not [00:16:23] gay. No, I, [00:16:24] I don't. [00:16:25] I-- No, there's no amount [00:16:26] of money. [00:16:27] There's no amount of money."

Like, [00:16:28] I'm not gay. Like if I [00:16:29] was a [00:16:30] vegetarian or vegan, [00:16:31] there's no amount of [00:16:32] money that you could pay me to [00:16:33] eat meat.[00:16:34]

Jay Aundrea: Right

Bruce Anthony: You [00:16:35] know, like it's just, [00:16:36] like I stand [00:16:37] on what I stand on. [00:16:38] Right or wrong, I'm a [00:16:39] principle person. I stand [00:16:40] on what I stand on. [00:16:41] So, [00:16:42] um, [00:16:43] no, the reason why I [00:16:44] brought all this up was [00:16:45] really the pump [00:16:46] faking thing, and [00:16:47] that my friend was just [00:16:48] like, "I didn't never [00:16:49] even heard of it, never [00:16:50] even, [00:16:51] like thought of that."

[00:16:52] And I was like, [00:16:53] [00:16:54] "Come on now, we, like [00:16:55] we're up here in age. [00:16:56] Everybody should [00:16:57] know this by now." Just a [00:16:58] general, it's [00:16:59] a, it's a common [00:17:00] courtesy, polite [00:17:01] thing

Jay Aundrea: Yeah, [00:17:02] we're not kids anymore. [00:17:03] We-- Come [00:17:04] on now[00:17:05]

Bruce Anthony: It's like when [00:17:06] you go to a [00:17:07] office party, [00:17:08] you are-- [00:17:09] you say hello [00:17:10] to everybody, [00:17:11] even if, [00:17:12] even though you don't [00:17:13] like Sarah[00:17:14]

Jay Aundrea: I [00:17:15] can't [00:17:16] stand Sarah.[00:17:17]

Bruce Anthony: But you gonna say [00:17:18] hello

Jay Aundrea: [00:17:19] I'ma say, "Hey, [00:17:20] girl.[00:17:21]

Bruce Anthony: You got to [00:17:22] fake it till you

Jay Aundrea: [00:17:23] doing? [00:17:24] Mm-hmm. How'd the... [00:17:25] What's, [00:17:26] what about your cat? [00:17:27] Mm. [00:17:28] [00:17:29] Mm-hmm. [00:17:30] It was acting like a [00:17:31] cat? Okay. Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: It was [00:17:32]

Music Minute: Dru Hill Versus Jagged Edge R&B Debate Heats Up 🎤🎶🔥

Bruce Anthony: acting like a cat. [00:17:33] O- [00:17:34] one quick thing before we get [00:17:35] out of here. [00:17:36] Completely [00:17:37] different topic. We're only [00:17:38] gonna spend two or three [00:17:39] minutes on it. That's [00:17:40] it, okay?

Jay Aundrea: [00:17:41] Okay. Okay[00:17:42] [00:17:43]

Bruce Anthony: Dru Hill or [00:17:44] Jagged Edge? [00:17:45] If they did a

Jay Aundrea: [00:17:46] Hill. Drew [00:17:47] Hill

Bruce Anthony: Okay, [00:17:48] so [00:17:49] my friend, [00:17:50] same age as you, [00:17:51] was like, [00:17:52] "Dru Hill would [00:17:53] win, [00:17:54] but I'm so much of [00:17:55] a Jagged Edge [00:17:56] fan, [00:17:57] I would [00:17:58] want them to [00:17:59] win, but Dru Hill [00:18:00] would win."

And then I [00:18:01] was thinking to [00:18:02] myself, [00:18:03] I don't even think it's [00:18:04] close. [00:18:05] Dru Hill has [00:18:06] too [00:18:07] many [00:18:08] hits. It seemed [00:18:09] like every song they [00:18:10] came out with was a [00:18:11] hit

Jay Aundrea: And, [00:18:12] and as long [00:18:13] as they have [00:18:14] the silky [00:18:15] smooth vocals of [00:18:16] Jaz [00:18:17] [00:18:18] and [00:18:19] the, [00:18:20] uh, what's the, [00:18:21] what's, what's my [00:18:22] mans from Jodeci? The, [00:18:23] the [00:18:24] KCS-esque [00:18:25] vocals

Bruce Anthony: the [00:18:26] raspiness of

Cisco

Jay Aundrea: [00:18:27] of [00:18:28] Sisqó. Um, [00:18:29] yeah, you just... [00:18:30] I'm sorry. [00:18:31] Here's the thing, and it's [00:18:32] not that I'm not a [00:18:33] Jagged Edge fan. I [00:18:34] 100% [00:18:35] am. Every [00:18:36] single summer [00:18:37] since this song [00:18:38] came out, [00:18:39] you will see [00:18:40] me riding around the [00:18:41] city with all my [00:18:42] windows down and my [00:18:43] moonroof open playing "Where The [00:18:44] Party At,"[00:18:45]

Bruce Anthony: Yeah.[00:18:46]

Jay Aundrea: because it's just a [00:18:47] great summer [00:18:48] song.

I play [00:18:49] [00:18:50] "Summertime," Will Smith and [00:18:51] Jazzy [00:18:52] Jeff, and then I [00:18:53] play [00:18:54] "Where The Party At." [00:18:55] That's, those [00:18:56] are my two summertime [00:18:57] songs, so it's not like [00:18:58] I'm not a fan, [00:18:59] but come [00:19:00] on. [00:19:01] [00:19:02] Come on.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, I [00:19:03] mean, it's Dru Hill.[00:19:04]

Jay Aundrea: Soon as they break [00:19:05] out beauty, [00:19:06] sleeping in my bed, [00:19:07] uh, uh, the five [00:19:08] steps. [00:19:09] Like, come on. [00:19:10] Come on, man. [00:19:11] It's Dru [00:19:12] Hill

Bruce Anthony: Uh, what [00:19:13] is, what is my [00:19:14] favorite song from Dru [00:19:15] Hill? [00:19:16] Um [00:19:17] [00:19:18] [00:19:19] Never Make a Promise [00:19:20] is one of my favorites.[00:19:21]

Jay Aundrea: That's a good one. [00:19:22] That's a good one[00:19:23]

Bruce Anthony: we're not gonna [00:19:24] fall down this rabbit hole, but [00:19:25] I just wanted to get [00:19:26] your, I just wanted [00:19:27] to get your thoughts [00:19:28] on it 'cause [00:19:29] Dru Hill. [00:19:30] And they only had-- [00:19:31] They had three [00:19:32] albums, but they really [00:19:33] only had two.[00:19:34]

Jay Aundrea: [00:19:35] Yes.

Bruce Anthony: really only[00:19:36]

Jay Aundrea: 'cause that third [00:19:37] album, I don't know if[00:19:38]

Bruce Anthony: got one jam [00:19:39] on that third album. That, [00:19:40] that first [00:19:41] song on that third [00:19:42] album is great, [00:19:43] but [00:19:44] it was too much [00:19:45] infighting and, [00:19:46] uh, Woody had left [00:19:47] and came back, [00:19:48] and [00:19:49] Jazz was in [00:19:50] rehab, and

[00:19:51] It was all, types

Jay Aundrea: it was [00:19:52] all kind of things [00:19:53] going on. But, [00:19:54] um, [00:19:55] uh, [00:19:56] yeah, sorry, I'm [00:19:57] looking over their top [00:19:58] hits and [00:19:59] fan favorites [00:20:00] now. It's like, nope, [00:20:01] come on

Bruce Anthony: [00:20:02] "These Are the Times" is [00:20:03] also one of my favorite [00:20:04] songs

Jay Aundrea: These Are the [00:20:05] Times, Tell [00:20:06] Me, How Deep [00:20:07] Is Your Love, [00:20:08] Never Make a [00:20:09] Promise, In My [00:20:10] Bed, We Not [00:20:11] Making Love No [00:20:12] More from the Soul [00:20:13] Food [00:20:14] soundtrack. You [00:20:15] Are [00:20:16] Everything, that

Bruce Anthony: You Are [00:20:17] Everything [00:20:18] remix is even [00:20:19] better. The [00:20:20] remix is even [00:20:21] better, yes

Jay Aundrea: I [00:20:22] mean, come on. Five [00:20:23] Steps, Beauty, come [00:20:24] on.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, I [00:20:25] mean, Jagged Edge got [00:20:26] some hits, [00:20:27] but, uh, just [00:20:28] not on Dru [00:20:29] Hill's. But that's our just [00:20:30] our little music [00:20:31] minute. [00:20:32] But I said [00:20:33] something earlier. I [00:20:34] said fake it [00:20:35] until you make [00:20:36] it. And [00:20:37] boy, oh [00:20:38] boy, do these [00:20:39] next two [00:20:40] segments really [00:20:41] emphasize people [00:20:42] faking it [00:20:43] until they kinda made [00:20:44] it.

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Bruce Anthony: [00:20:45] [00:20:46] [00:20:47] [00:20:48] [00:20:49] [00:20:50] [00:20:51] [00:20:52] What if the [00:20:53] person you thought you were [00:20:54] googling [00:20:55] [00:20:56] was the person that [00:20:57] was actually lying to [00:20:58] you? The FBI [00:20:59] says [00:21:00] Dejon or [00:21:01] Dejon or whatever the [00:21:02] boy's name is [00:21:03] Love spent four [00:21:04] years pretending to be a [00:21:05] San Francisco [00:21:06] 49er wide [00:21:07] receiver, and [00:21:08] prosecutors say he didn't [00:21:09] do it alone. [00:21:10] The allege-- [00:21:11] He, they allege [00:21:12] he and an 18-year-old [00:21:13] accomplice used [00:21:14] dating apps to scam [00:21:15] more than two [00:21:16] dozen women out [00:21:17] of roughly [00:21:18] $1.3 [00:21:19] [00:21:20] [00:21:21] [00:21:22] million.

[00:21:23] But here's where it gets [00:21:24] real crazy. Some of the [00:21:25] women got [00:21:26] suspicious. Uh, they [00:21:27] did what you're supposed to [00:21:28] do. They googled him, [00:21:29] and Google [00:21:30] said he was [00:21:31] real. AI [00:21:32] said that he was [00:21:33] real, so this man has [00:21:34] allegedly took the [00:21:35] lie, got the [00:21:36] machine to back [00:21:37] up the lie, [00:21:38] and then [00:21:39] screenshotted the [00:21:40] machine's answer and sent [00:21:41] it back to the [00:21:42] victims as proof.[00:21:43]

Jay Aundrea: [00:21:44] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: about that for a [00:21:45] second. The [00:21:46] thing these women used [00:21:47] to fact-check the [00:21:48] scam became [00:21:49] part of the [00:21:50] scam. [00:21:51] Now, everything here [00:21:52] is alleged, so I [00:21:53]

DaeJon Love: The Fake NFL Star Who Turned AI Into His Accomplice 🏈🤖🚨

Bruce Anthony: wanna just [00:21:54] focus on the [00:21:55] fact that Mr. Dejon [00:21:56] Love has not [00:21:57] been convicted of [00:21:58] anything yet. [00:21:59] But if [00:22:00] the prosecutors are [00:22:01] right, we're [00:22:02] not just talking about a [00:22:03] romance scam.

We're [00:22:04] talking about a [00:22:05] scammer who figured out how [00:22:06] to make AI [00:22:07] his accomplice. [00:22:08] Now, [00:22:09] Jay, you hit [00:22:10] me up when we did [00:22:11] the after-hours like, [00:22:12] "We didn't talk about this." I [00:22:13] said, "Don't worry. [00:22:14] It is all the [00:22:15] second segment of [00:22:16] the main show," [00:22:17] because we had to [00:22:18] talk about this. [00:22:19] It's been all on [00:22:20] social media, the [00:22:21] guy that pretended to [00:22:22] be an NFL wide [00:22:23] receiver scamming [00:22:24] women out of money.

[00:22:25] You said you had a [00:22:26] lot of things to, [00:22:27] to talk about [00:22:28] about this. [00:22:29] Before I even get to the [00:22:30] key facts, I'm gonna [00:22:31] just let you say [00:22:32] your piece on [00:22:33] all of this that was [00:22:34] going on[00:22:35]

Jay Aundrea: Well, my very [00:22:36]

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Jay Aundrea: first [00:22:37] thing is [00:22:38] to-- [00:22:39] and I think this, [00:22:40] this, [00:22:41] like the [00:22:42] plot gets lost a [00:22:43] little, a little bit [00:22:44] [00:22:45] because it [00:22:46] has AI built [00:22:47] in, but [00:22:48] Google is a [00:22:49] search engine.

Bruce Anthony: [00:22:50] Mm-hmm.[00:22:51]

Jay Aundrea: It's not a [00:22:52] answer machine. [00:22:53] You're supposed [00:22:54] to then click [00:22:55] the [00:22:56] links [00:22:57] that pop up, [00:22:58] one of which [00:22:59] would've been [00:23:00] the [00:23:01] official [00:23:02] [00:23:03] nfl.com San [00:23:04] Francisco 49ers [00:23:05] roster, [00:23:06] and you [00:23:07] look up number [00:23:08] seven, [00:23:09] look up [00:23:10] number seven, [00:23:11] and you notice [00:23:12] that it's not [00:23:13] DeJon [00:23:14] Love.

Some of y'all [00:23:15] stop at the [00:23:16] Google,

Bruce Anthony: [00:23:17] Mm-hmm.

Jay Aundrea: and [00:23:18] you think that that's the [00:23:19] end of the [00:23:20] search. No, that's the [00:23:21] search [00:23:22] engine. You [00:23:23] have to [00:23:24] then click the [00:23:25] links [00:23:26] and, and [00:23:27] continue to do so. Some [00:23:28] of y'all be like, [00:23:29] "I did my [00:23:30] research." No, you [00:23:31] didn't, [00:23:32] 'cause you [00:23:33] never clicked a [00:23:34] link to [00:23:35] verify [00:23:36] what the AI is [00:23:37] saying. The AI [00:23:38] [00:23:39] is going [00:23:40] to just-- [00:23:41] A-again, [00:23:42] it's not [00:23:43] thinking.[00:23:44]

It is a [00:23:45] model that predicts [00:23:46] the next [00:23:47] word, right? [00:23:48] So [00:23:49] it [00:23:50] is going to [00:23:51] scrape the internet, [00:23:52] and it's gonna find [00:23:53] him [00:23:54] perpetrating, [00:23:55] and it'll say, [00:23:56] "Yes, this [00:23:57] person is [00:23:58] real, and he is [00:23:59] a member [00:24:00] of the San Francisco [00:24:01] 49ers." Why? [00:24:02] Because he's put that on [00:24:03] the internet.

Bruce Anthony: [00:24:04] Mm-hmm.

Jay Aundrea: [00:24:05] You gotta [00:24:06] then look up the [00:24:07] roster. [00:24:08] [00:24:09] Some of y'all don't take that [00:24:10] extra [00:24:11] step to [00:24:12] verify.[00:24:13]

You say [00:24:14] the, the, the phrase [00:24:15] is trust but [00:24:16] verify. You [00:24:17] got to [00:24:18] [00:24:19] verify, and that's where some of [00:24:20] y'all fall short, [00:24:21] 'cause ain't no [00:24:22] way. [00:24:23] [00:24:24] [00:24:25] In 22-- Here's [00:24:26] how you know [00:24:27] he was [00:24:28] scamming [00:24:29] the ladies that's [00:24:30] not [00:24:31] really, [00:24:32] um, chasing [00:24:33] ballplayers, 'cause [00:24:34] there's ladies that are [00:24:35] out there that are [00:24:36] chasing [00:24:37] ballplayers. And let me [00:24:38] tell you something about these [00:24:39] ladies.

They [00:24:40] know your [00:24:41] stats. [00:24:42] They know your net [00:24:43] worth. [00:24:44] They know who [00:24:45] you dated, who your [00:24:46] mama is, your [00:24:47] favorite color, what kind [00:24:48] of food you [00:24:49] like. Like, [00:24:50] those ladies [00:24:51] are already-- [00:24:52] They know who the [00:24:53] players are, so that's how I [00:24:54] know he didn't [00:24:55] target ladies that [00:24:56] are actually [00:24:57] about that life. [00:24:58] That's number [00:24:59] one. Number [00:25:00] two, [00:25:01] y'all- [00:25:02] [00:25:03] Got to be [00:25:04] more discerning. [00:25:05] [00:25:06] [00:25:07] [00:25:08] [00:25:09] [00:25:10] Okay? You just [00:25:11] gotta be. You [00:25:12] just gotta [00:25:13] be. And the thing [00:25:14] of, the thing of it [00:25:15] is, is that [00:25:16] our [00:25:17] own [00:25:18] egos [00:25:19] [00:25:20] [00:25:21] sometimes will [00:25:22] have us believe in [00:25:23] BS [00:25:24] [00:25:25] because it feeds our [00:25:26] ego. [00:25:27] It feeds your [00:25:28] ego [00:25:29] to s- to [00:25:30] say, "A [00:25:31] NFL wide [00:25:32] receiver is in my [00:25:33] DMs." That's [00:25:34] feeding your [00:25:35] ego, but it's [00:25:36] also not true. [00:25:37] You need to [00:25:38] step outside of [00:25:39] yourself and do some [00:25:40] due diligence and [00:25:41] be a little bit more [00:25:42] [00:25:43] discerning, ' [00:25:44] cause it [00:25:45] ain't that many [00:25:46] players in the [00:25:47] NFL.

[00:25:48] And then if you take [00:25:49] out the ones that's [00:25:50] already dating [00:25:51] someone-

Bruce Anthony: a lot of NFL [00:25:52] players[00:25:53]

Jay Aundrea: I mean, [00:25:54] [00:25:55] players[00:25:56] [00:25:57]

Bruce Anthony: He could be, [00:25:58] he could still be a wide [00:25:59] receiver [00:26:00] and he might not get on the [00:26:01] field, but he's still an [00:26:02] NFL wide [00:26:03] receiver[00:26:04]

Jay Aundrea: There, it [00:26:05] ain't like there's [00:26:06] millions of them,

Bruce Anthony: It's [00:26:07] 55 for [00:26:08] 32 teams. [00:26:09] That's over 150[00:26:10] [00:26:11]

Jay Aundrea: That's not [00:26:12] a lot

Bruce Anthony: [00:26:13] Actually, that number [00:26:14] is [00:26:15] really wrong. I [00:26:16] believe it's [00:26:17] 1,500.

Jay Aundrea: [00:26:18] definitely wrong. [00:26:19] But 1,500 [00:26:20] isn't-- Think about it, [00:26:21] okay? [00:26:22] 1,500. Cut out the [00:26:23] ones that's already dating. [00:26:24] Cut out the [00:26:25] ones that are married. [00:26:26] Then you got a [00:26:27] handful, you got a couple hundred [00:26:28] pe- Now [00:26:29] cut out the ones [00:26:30] that's way too damn [00:26:31] young for y'all. [00:26:32] The, the, [00:26:33] the [00:26:34] freshies out the box. [00:26:35] Them, them is, [00:26:36] they too young for [00:26:37] y'all, okay?[00:26:38]

Okay, [00:26:39] so you got a [00:26:40] limited pool [00:26:41] and you think [00:26:42] he in [00:26:43] your DMs? [00:26:44] [00:26:45] [00:26:46] Just [00:26:47] [00:26:48] the odds of [00:26:49] it is [00:26:50] just very [00:26:51] slim.

Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.[00:26:52]

Jay Aundrea: You [00:26:53] know? That's, that's [00:26:54] my thing. And [00:26:55] if somebody [00:26:56] asks you for [00:26:57] money, [00:26:58] even if they [00:26:59] promise to send you [00:27:00] back [00:27:01] more, [00:27:02] and even if they [00:27:03] actually do it the [00:27:04] first time, [00:27:05] if somebody's [00:27:06] asking you for [00:27:07] money, it's [00:27:08] a [00:27:09] scam[00:27:10]

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Bruce Anthony: His was a little bit [00:27:11] more sophisticated [00:27:12] than just straight up asking [00:27:13] them for money. [00:27:14] So he's [00:27:15] 35 years old. He's [00:27:16] got an alleged [00:27:17] accomplice, uh, [00:27:18] Taylor Chen, [00:27:19] who's 18, [00:27:20] who played his [00:27:21] financial advisor. [00:27:22] [00:27:23] Most, uh, [00:27:24] most [00:27:25] victims, [00:27:26] uh, were found on [00:27:27] dating apps, and he's [00:27:28] been doing this since [00:27:29] February [00:27:30] 2022. He posed as a [00:27:31] 49ers wide [00:27:32] receiver, worn number [00:27:33] seven.

Uh, [00:27:34] also a real estate [00:27:35] investor. He had [00:27:36] 26 [00:27:37] victims that have been [00:27:38] identified. The FB- [00:27:39] FBI believes that there are [00:27:40] more. [00:27:41] Like I said, [00:27:42] roughly $1.3 million [00:27:43] taken, [00:27:44] no victim ever [00:27:45] paid back. So he [00:27:46] wasn't giving that money back. [00:27:47] Victims [00:27:48] across Oregon, [00:27:49] Washington, [00:27:50] Idaho, and [00:27:51] California. He faked [00:27:52] bank balances [00:27:53] with phone apps.

[00:27:54] Once showed that [00:27:55] he had $30 [00:27:56] million. Chen [00:27:57] [00:27:58] joined three-way [00:27:59] FaceTime calls [00:28:00] showing [00:28:01] fake gains, [00:28:02] told victims to take [00:28:03] out personal [00:28:04] loans when [00:28:05] cash ran dry, [00:28:06] and blocked victims [00:28:07] once the money stopped [00:28:08] coming in. [00:28:09] Now, [00:28:10] [00:28:11] how he [00:28:12] faked the [00:28:13] algorithm, how [00:28:14] he faked [00:28:15] AI, [00:28:16] was [00:28:17] flooding [00:28:18] the internet [00:28:19] with these [00:28:20] videos that I [00:28:21] know y'all have [00:28:22] seen with him running on the beach with [00:28:23] his helmet on.[00:28:24]

No [00:28:25] NFL player [00:28:26] [00:28:27] wears their [00:28:28] helmet

Jay Aundrea: The game [00:28:29] day helmet [00:28:30] [00:28:31] That's supposed to be in your locker. Your game day helmet and you on the beach [00:28:32] and that-- Maybe 'cause I watch football, b- [00:28:33] like I'm watching, like I'm looking through all these videos that he's put, I'm looking at it

Bruce Anthony: [00:28:34] And [00:28:35] [00:28:36] yes[00:28:37] [00:28:38] [00:28:39] [00:28:40] [00:28:41] [00:28:42] [00:28:43] [00:28:44] [00:28:45] [00:28:46] [00:28:47]

Jay Aundrea: 'cause [00:28:48] I am [00:28:49] deeply [00:28:50] invested in this [00:28:51] kind of [00:28:52] scam because I don't [00:28:53] under- ever understand [00:28:54] how it actually [00:28:55] happens. [00:28:56] Like, [00:28:57] [00:28:58] looked [00:28:59] fake[00:29:00]

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Bruce Anthony: Yes. [00:29:01] [00:29:02] I mean, it, [00:29:03] it looks fake because [00:29:04] we knew it, right? [00:29:05] But like you said, [00:29:06] you brought up something [00:29:07] that I didn't even think [00:29:08] about is ego. [00:29:09] Side story, [00:29:10] I was once [00:29:11] dating a [00:29:12] fitness influencer. [00:29:13] She was bad. [00:29:14] She's a fitness [00:29:15] influencer, right? [00:29:16] [00:29:17] I was [00:29:18] excited for the fact that I [00:29:19] was dating [00:29:20] this badass [00:29:21] fitness [00:29:22] influencer.

Horrible [00:29:23] person. [00:29:24] One, one of the [00:29:25] worst people that I've ever [00:29:26] met in my entire [00:29:27] life, okay? [00:29:28] Well, to me. [00:29:29] Just very [00:29:30] self-centered, [00:29:31] [00:29:32] superficial, and [00:29:33] toxic. And, [00:29:34] but [00:29:35] I kicked it for [00:29:36] longer than I should [00:29:37] have [00:29:38] because I [00:29:39] liked that trophy on my [00:29:40] arm. [00:29:41] So it, it [00:29:42] stroked my ego. [00:29:43] They [00:29:44] want me, when [00:29:45] I know all these other [00:29:46] dudes is in their DM.

[00:29:47] Horrible person. This [00:29:48] person was actually [00:29:49] real. [00:29:50] But this [00:29:51] person to them [00:29:52] is [00:29:53] real because they get them on [00:29:54] FaceTime. They [00:29:55] showing-- He's showing the [00:29:56] bank accounts. [00:29:57] He's showing pictures [00:29:58] in front of a [00:29:59] McLaren and a [00:30:00] Lamborghini in the [00:30:01] video just [00:30:02] flaunting. He's [00:30:03] flaunting that life. He's [00:30:04] try-

Jay Aundrea: You [00:30:05] can rent [00:30:06] those.

Bruce Anthony: You [00:30:07] can. It costs [00:30:08] money, though.

Jay Aundrea: [00:30:09] It costs money, [00:30:10] money that he's getting [00:30:11] from them. He got[00:30:12]

Bruce Anthony: Yeah[00:30:13]

Jay Aundrea: He g- he [00:30:14] scams one [00:30:15] to get the money [00:30:16] to rent the [00:30:17] stuff so he can [00:30:18] scam other [00:30:19] people. First, [00:30:20] listen, [00:30:21] if [00:30:22] somebody is giving you [00:30:23] a bunch of [00:30:24] evidence [00:30:25] that they got [00:30:26] something, [00:30:27] just know they ain't got it. [00:30:28] [00:30:29] [00:30:30] Just know that they don't [00:30:31] actually have it. [00:30:32] Because if [00:30:33] you gotta, "Oh, [00:30:34] let me show you my, [00:30:35] um, bank [00:30:36] app, and I got, [00:30:37] I'll show you, uh, [00:30:38] these are my [00:30:39] gains and all the da-da-da, [00:30:40] my financial gains [00:30:41] and blah, blah, blah, blah," [00:30:42] that's letting me know [00:30:43] you ain't [00:30:44] got a dime. [00:30:45] Because why [00:30:46] are you working so [00:30:47] hard to prove [00:30:48] to me [00:30:49] that you [00:30:50] got money? [00:30:51] [00:30:52] [00:30:53] Either

Bruce Anthony: people will [00:30:54] flash. I mean, I [00:30:55] was-- I, [00:30:56] my favorite rap [00:30:57] group in the, in the [00:30:58] earl- in the late [00:30:59] '90s, early 2000s was [00:31:00] the Big Timers, and [00:31:01] all they did-- I had, [00:31:02] I wore [00:31:03] two giant [00:31:04] diamonds in my ears, [00:31:05] two [00:31:06] watches, and a [00:31:07] thick chain [00:31:08] [00:31:09] frontin' [00:31:10] like I had that type of [00:31:11] money. I [00:31:12] did not[00:31:13]

Jay Aundrea: their name was [00:31:14] literally Big [00:31:15] Timers. Like that, [00:31:16] that was the whole [00:31:17] persona [00:31:18] was [00:31:19] excess,

Bruce Anthony: [00:31:20] Mm-hmm

Jay Aundrea: right? [00:31:21] And showing that [00:31:22] you big time. [00:31:23] That's, that's diff- [00:31:24] this is d- [00:31:25] [00:31:26] If [00:31:27] somebody is [00:31:28] showing you all [00:31:29] these [00:31:30] receipts to [00:31:31] prove [00:31:32] that they got money, [00:31:33] it means they don't have it. [00:31:34] Because if they [00:31:35] actually had [00:31:36] money, you would see the [00:31:37] wealth on them. [00:31:38] [00:31:39] You would

Bruce Anthony: People with [00:31:40] money, you could just [00:31:41] tell that they got money. [00:31:42] Even if they [00:31:43] dressed real bummy, [00:31:44] they, they got the, they [00:31:45] got that I got [00:31:46] money air [00:31:47] about

Jay Aundrea: Their [00:31:48] eyes are all [00:31:49] clear, you [00:31:50] know? Like [00:31:51] they don't have-- [00:31:52] they ain't stressed, no [00:31:53] bags under their [00:31:54] eyes. They just kind [00:31:55] of whistle [00:31:56] at random [00:31:57] moments, like just [00:31:58] whistle while

Bruce Anthony: Skipping down the [00:31:59] street

Jay Aundrea: [00:32:00] skipping. Every [00:32:01] day looks [00:32:02] sunny. You know, you could [00:32:03] tell people with [00:32:04] money. They, they're [00:32:05] [00:32:06] attractive even though they're [00:32:07] really not, [00:32:08] you know?

Like [00:32:09] it's, you [00:32:10] could just tell. [00:32:11] They give off a [00:32:12] aura. The, [00:32:13] it's, it's, that's what the [00:32:14] young people say [00:32:15] now. Uh, we said [00:32:16] swag. It's now [00:32:17] aura. They [00:32:18] give off this, [00:32:19] they give off this [00:32:20] aura, and you just [00:32:21] know. [00:32:22] Um, so [00:32:23] when they're [00:32:24] showing you a bunch of [00:32:25] things to prove to you, [00:32:26] "No, I got money. I [00:32:27] just need your [00:32:28] money for ba, [00:32:29] ba, ba," you've already [00:32:30] lost me.

Because [00:32:31] if you got money, why you [00:32:32] need me to take out a [00:32:33] loan?

Bruce Anthony: [00:32:34] Yeah. [00:32:35] So he was, [00:32:36] they were both [00:32:37] arrested in [00:32:38] Idaho. [00:32:39] In Idaho. [00:32:40] Um[00:32:41]

Jay Aundrea: And we ain't [00:32:42] even there. [00:32:43] [00:32:44] You know what I'm saying? [00:32:45] Ain't even nobody [00:32:46] named D- [00:32:47] well, Black people. Like,[00:32:48]

Bruce Anthony: There's [00:32:49] Black people in, uh, there's [00:32:50] Black people in Idaho. [00:32:51] If you don't remember [00:32:52] the movie [00:32:53] Moving, it was all [00:32:54] about Richard Pryor and [00:32:55] his family [00:32:56] moving to Boise, [00:32:57] Idaho. So we at [00:32:58] least know

Jay Aundrea: [00:32:59] fictional[00:33:00]

Bruce Anthony: there's Black... [00:33:01] There's gotta be Black [00:33:02] people in Idaho. There, [00:33:03] there... It's an [00:33:04] entire state. [00:33:05] Um, but he was [00:33:06] arrested.[00:33:07]

Him and [00:33:08] Chan were arrested [00:33:09] meeting more [00:33:10] victims, so they [00:33:11] weren't done. [00:33:12] Um, he's [00:33:13] being held without [00:33:14] bond 'cause he's [00:33:15] supposedly a s- [00:33:16] uh, [00:33:17] serious flight [00:33:18] risk. Where [00:33:19] Chan was released, [00:33:20] uh, pending a [00:33:21] trial 'cause boy [00:33:22] only 18 years old. [00:33:23] That's the thing that'd be [00:33:24] killing me. I'm like, [00:33:25] you... [00:33:26] I'm 18. [00:33:27] Uh, he was [00:33:28] scamming me.

He [00:33:29] told me to play a [00:33:30] role. I thought it was an [00:33:31] acting gig. That-- [00:33:32] Look, if

Jay Aundrea: [00:33:33] Yeah

Bruce Anthony: Chan, I'd be [00:33:34] throwing him under [00:33:35] the[00:33:36]

Jay Aundrea: All the [00:33:37] way. I still got my whole [00:33:38] life ahead of me. You kidding [00:33:39] me?

Bruce Anthony: So you [00:33:40]

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Bruce Anthony: tore him a new [00:33:41] one, but I, I gotta [00:33:42] just say [00:33:43] that [00:33:44] we tell people [00:33:45] to do the research all [00:33:46] the time.

Jay Aundrea: [00:33:47] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: And [00:33:48] a lot of people [00:33:49] aren't [00:33:50] technologically savvy to [00:33:51] [00:33:52] realize that when [00:33:53] they now [00:33:54] do [00:33:55] the Google [00:33:56] search in Google[00:33:57]

Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.[00:33:58] [00:33:59]

Bruce Anthony: Even if you [00:34:00] don't click on AI [00:34:01] mode, [00:34:02] there'll be an [00:34:03] AI [00:34:04] overview in the [00:34:05] regular Google [00:34:06] before you even get [00:34:07] to the sources. [00:34:08] So I don't think [00:34:09] people are [00:34:10] aware of that, [00:34:11] and, and they [00:34:12] also aren't [00:34:13] aware [00:34:14] that AI won't [00:34:15] give you all the right [00:34:16] information.

We've been [00:34:17] screaming at the top [00:34:18] of our lungs that [00:34:19] AI doesn't give you the [00:34:20] right [00:34:21] information. [00:34:22] But not [00:34:23] everybody, not [00:34:24] everybody is [00:34:25] technologically [00:34:26] savvy [00:34:27] as [00:34:28] we are because [00:34:29] we, we are-- [00:34:30] You're [00:34:31] definitely in that industry. [00:34:32] I'm somewhat. [00:34:33] I [00:34:34] use AI a [00:34:35] lot. I deal [00:34:36] with it a lot, [00:34:37] so I'm [00:34:38] well-versed in [00:34:39] and have been over the [00:34:40] last four years.

But a [00:34:41] lot of people, this is all [00:34:42] brand new [00:34:43] to them. And [00:34:44] so when they Google [00:34:45] something, [00:34:46] [00:34:47] they just [00:34:48] think, "Yeah, [00:34:49] okay, I found the [00:34:50] thing." And, and they're [00:34:51] also not researchers, [00:34:52] right? They're not [00:34:53] checking [00:34:54] sources. They're just like, [00:34:55] "Google told me this." [00:34:56] Like, [00:34:57] that's what people say [00:34:58] now. Like, "Look it up." [00:34:59] They don't say look it [00:35:00] up.

They say Google [00:35:01] it.

Jay Aundrea: Just Google it. [00:35:02] Yeah. Yeah. [00:35:03] It's definitely [00:35:04] become part of the [00:35:05] lexicon. [00:35:06] But again, [00:35:07] even when it [00:35:08] shows like the [00:35:09] AI answer, it'll [00:35:10] still [00:35:11] over on the [00:35:12] right show you the [00:35:13] sources. [00:35:14] And if those [00:35:15] sources don't look [00:35:16] legit [00:35:17] [00:35:18] [00:35:19] Keep [00:35:20] scrolling

Bruce Anthony: is legit [00:35:21] though? Most people don't [00:35:22] know what's legit and what's [00:35:23] not legit[00:35:24]

Jay Aundrea: Is the source [00:35:25] [00:35:26] nfl.com or is it [00:35:27] Instagram?[00:35:28] [00:35:29]

Bruce Anthony: But [00:35:30] if the, he's got an [00:35:31] Instagram where, [00:35:32] you know, he's got a [00:35:33] certain amount of [00:35:34] followers.

Jay Aundrea: [00:35:35] That's another [00:35:36] thing. [00:35:37] Yes, he's [00:35:38] got the blue check, [00:35:39] but if you [00:35:40] remember, [00:35:41] Meta changed [00:35:42] it where you can purchase [00:35:43] the

Bruce Anthony: You can purchase [00:35:44] the blue

Jay Aundrea: He's [00:35:45] got [00:35:46] 6,800 [00:35:47] followers[00:35:48]

Bruce Anthony: Oh, that was, [00:35:49] that was it?[00:35:50]

Jay Aundrea: That was [00:35:51] it. So [00:35:52] that already lets me [00:35:53] know, I don't know a [00:35:54] NFL player [00:35:55] out there. I [00:35:56] found the most [00:35:57] random [00:35:58] NFL player [00:35:59] I could find, and he [00:36:00] still had [00:36:01] 30K

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, [00:36:02] because you gonna think [00:36:03] that [00:36:04] if it's your team, [00:36:05] if you love the [00:36:06] Philadelphia Eagles, [00:36:07] if you find a [00:36:08] player on there that you [00:36:09] like, you might start [00:36:10] following him. And he [00:36:11] might be obscure. [00:36:12] He might be somebody [00:36:13] that's on the kickoff [00:36:14] team, [00:36:15] right? Uh, but you'd be [00:36:16] like, "Oh, okay. Well, [00:36:17] no, I kinda like [00:36:18] him. You know, he, he [00:36:19] works hard.

Let me follow [00:36:20] on Instagram." So [00:36:21] just from the fans [00:36:22] alone, [00:36:23] you should hit [00:36:24] 10 to 20K[00:36:25]

Jay Aundrea: You should [00:36:26] also have [00:36:27] [00:36:28] networks [00:36:29] following [00:36:30] you, like [00:36:31] ESPN might be following [00:36:32] you. [00:36:33] Uh, you [00:36:34] know, like any of [00:36:35] those shows, they might be [00:36:36] following you. Your [00:36:37] team's [00:36:38] page [00:36:39] typically follows [00:36:40] you, [00:36:41] [00:36:42] right? [00:36:43] Like, your [00:36:44] [00:36:45] teammates

Bruce Anthony: [00:36:46] But most pe-

Jay Aundrea: will [00:36:47] follow you. [00:36:48] So

Bruce Anthony: ego. [00:36:49] It's the ego. [00:36:50] Like they're not looking [00:36:51] for these things[00:36:52]

Jay Aundrea: [00:36:53] followers, I know [00:36:54] that this is not a [00:36:55] person who has been [00:36:56] playing in the [00:36:57] NFL[00:36:58]

Bruce Anthony: All right. [00:36:59] I hear what you're [00:37:00] saying, and, and I'm [00:37:01] not saying that what you're [00:37:02] saying doesn't have [00:37:03] validity. It [00:37:04] does. But, [00:37:05] but let [00:37:06] me just [00:37:07] give a [00:37:08] different perspective.[00:37:09]

Jay Aundrea: Okay

Bruce Anthony: heard [00:37:10]

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Bruce Anthony: of [00:37:11] pig [00:37:12] butchering[00:37:13]

Jay Aundrea: Pig [00:37:14] butchering. [00:37:15] No. [00:37:16] As a[00:37:17]

Bruce Anthony: uh, let me [00:37:18] break it down for you. [00:37:19] It is [00:37:20] a [00:37:21] translation of a [00:37:22] Chinese [00:37:23] phrase, [00:37:24] shuzheng pan, [00:37:25] and it's the image is [00:37:26] deliberately [00:37:27] ugly. You [00:37:28] fatten a pig up [00:37:29] so you can [00:37:30] slaughter it, [00:37:31] right?

Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.[00:37:32]

Bruce Anthony: How does this [00:37:33] relate to [00:37:34] what my man Mr. [00:37:35] Love was doing? So [00:37:36] step one is [00:37:37] not money, [00:37:38] it's the [00:37:39] relationship. [00:37:40] The scammer [00:37:41] spends weeks or [00:37:42] months being the [00:37:43] perfect partner, [00:37:44] building a [00:37:45] real emotional [00:37:46] trust.

[00:37:47] This is the [00:37:48] fattening. [00:37:49] So [00:37:50] [00:37:51] yes, you're [00:37:52] building up the ego. [00:37:53] Th- the person [00:37:54] has the ego, but they're building [00:37:55] up the ego by [00:37:56] just their interaction. "Oh, [00:37:57] you're beautiful. I think about [00:37:58] you all the time. I just got out [00:37:59] of practice. [00:38:00] You know what I'm saying? The [00:38:01] first thing I wanted to [00:38:02] do was text you. How you doing [00:38:03] today?"

[00:38:04] "How you doing, baby? [00:38:05] I'm gonna soak in the tub [00:38:06] a little bit [00:38:07] later 'cause I'm sore from [00:38:08] prac-" Like, this is [00:38:09] the fattening, [00:38:10] right?

Jay Aundrea: [00:38:11] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: Step [00:38:12] two is the [00:38:13] pivot. [00:38:14] Once [00:38:15] they get the [00:38:16] trust, they [00:38:17] introduce an [00:38:18] investment, usually [00:38:19] crypto [00:38:20] or something [00:38:21] else that they're [00:38:22] supposedly getting [00:38:23] rich on, and that's [00:38:24] what he did. He was [00:38:25] like, "Look," he was [00:38:26] driving around saying, [00:38:27] "I got these [00:38:28] properties, I got these [00:38:29] investments."

He got his [00:38:30] boy that's his [00:38:31] financial [00:38:32] advisor on three-way [00:38:33] talking about these [00:38:34] gains that you're getting, [00:38:35] and everybody [00:38:36] want to get rich quick. [00:38:37] Everybody [00:38:38] thinks that they could [00:38:39] throw an investment [00:38:40] and then flip it three [00:38:41] times in [00:38:42] two hours. [00:38:43] That's what everybody's [00:38:44] thinking. That does not [00:38:45] exist. That's not [00:38:46] how money works[00:38:47]

Jay Aundrea: It does [00:38:48] if you were talking [00:38:49] about cocaine, [00:38:50] but we're not talking [00:38:51] about

Bruce Anthony: don't even [00:38:52] work that way with [00:38:53] cocaine. It, it [00:38:54] don't. Not that [00:38:55] quick. So [00:38:56] it don't, [00:38:57] it don't, okay? Not [00:38:58] that I know. [00:38:59] Not that I [00:39:00] know.

Jay Aundrea: Right.[00:39:01]

Bruce Anthony: But [00:39:02] I know. Anyway,[00:39:03]

Jay Aundrea: Sure,

Bruce Anthony: [00:39:04] step three is the [00:39:05] hook. [00:39:06] They show you the fake [00:39:07] gains [00:39:08] on a fake [00:39:09] platform. [00:39:10] So [00:39:11] they put in a [00:39:12] little, then they [00:39:13] put in a lot. [00:39:14] And, and [00:39:15] then, and my man is [00:39:16] telling them once again, they're [00:39:17] showing them these fake [00:39:18] bank statements. [00:39:19] They're showing them these [00:39:20] gains, all [00:39:21] this type of stuff. [00:39:22] This [00:39:23] is pig [00:39:24] butchering. Then [00:39:25] there's step four, [00:39:26] and this is the [00:39:27] actual [00:39:28] slaughter.

The moment [00:39:29] you are tapped [00:39:30] out and they start [00:39:31] asking the question, [00:39:32] the money, the [00:39:33] person both [00:39:34] begin to vanish, [00:39:35] right? So [00:39:36] then they got your [00:39:37] money,

Jay Aundrea: [00:39:38] Yep

Bruce Anthony: and then you're like, [00:39:39] "Wait a minute, where are my [00:39:40] gains coming?" [00:39:41] And then [00:39:42] they ghost it. They [00:39:43] blocked you. [00:39:44] And that's what [00:39:45] happened in this [00:39:46] situation. [00:39:47] Two people [00:39:48] complained.

They was [00:39:49]

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Bruce Anthony: like, "Look, he done got [00:39:50] me for this bread." [00:39:51] That's how the indictments [00:39:52] came down. That's [00:39:53] how he got [00:39:54] arrested. [00:39:55] So look, [00:39:56] there's a whole [00:39:57] industry, and it's [00:39:58] funny because [00:39:59] one of the areas is [00:40:00] California and South [00:40:01] Carolina. I mean, [00:40:02] South Fr- N- [00:40:03] not South Carolina, [00:40:04] San Francisco [00:40:05] and [00:40:06] California. There's a [00:40:07] whole [00:40:08] market of [00:40:09] romance [00:40:10] scams, and that [00:40:11] they're saying [00:40:12] that [00:40:13] $6.3 [00:40:14] million is [00:40:15] [00:40:16] now the new [00:40:17] number, [00:40:18] right?

It [00:40:19] used to be [00:40:20] [00:40:21] [00:40:22] $734,000 that people [00:40:23] would get scammed in in [00:40:24] maybe a year. [00:40:25] It's jumped up [00:40:26] 900% over the [00:40:27] last couple of [00:40:28] years. [00:40:29] Um, some of the [00:40:30] victims have jumped [00:40:31] up [00:40:32] 80%. There's been an account of [00:40:33] nearly 80% of [00:40:34] all romance [00:40:35] scam theft [00:40:36] in South [00:40:37] Carolina. And that's-- I [00:40:38] keep saying South Carolina. In [00:40:39] San Francisco.[00:40:40]

In San [00:40:41] Francisco and the [00:40:42] surrounding area, Santa [00:40:43] Clara, Santa [00:40:44] Mona, uh, S- [00:40:45] San M- [00:40:46] San Mateo [00:40:47] and Almedina, [00:40:48] right? [00:40:49] 80% [00:40:50] [00:40:51] rise [00:40:52] in romance [00:40:53] scam theft [00:40:54] in the [00:40:55] region in [00:40:56] just [00:40:57] 2025. So the [00:40:58] point of [00:40:59] this is [00:41:00] this, [00:41:01] you know, we making [00:41:02] fun of [00:41:03] Dijon Mustard [00:41:04] love.

Jay Aundrea: [00:41:05] Yeah

Bruce Anthony: But the [00:41:06] fact of the matter is [00:41:07] [00:41:08] [00:41:09] he was in that [00:41:10] area and [00:41:11] saw it, [00:41:12] and then was like, [00:41:13] "I can do [00:41:14] this."

Jay Aundrea: I can do this. [00:41:15] I can [00:41:16] go on [00:41:17] NFL Fan [00:41:18] Shop and get [00:41:19] a replica [00:41:20] helmet. [00:41:21] I [00:41:22] can [00:41:23] go and use [00:41:24] other people's money [00:41:25] to rent [00:41:26] luxury cars [00:41:27] and then pose in front [00:41:28] of them for [00:41:29] photos, and then hurry [00:41:30] up and take them back [00:41:31] within the hour because you [00:41:32] pay by the hour. [00:41:33] [00:41:34] Um, can [00:41:35] do all of these [00:41:36] things and scam [00:41:37] people, but a [00:41:38] scam is [00:41:39] a two-way street.[00:41:40]

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. I, [00:41:41] I

Jay Aundrea: gotta [00:41:42] have a mark [00:41:43] [00:41:44] that [00:41:45] will [00:41:46] buy into it, [00:41:47] [00:41:48] and that we [00:41:49] know of, there have [00:41:50] been at least [00:41:51] 26, and y'all just [00:41:52] gotta be-- [00:41:53] Or maybe it's just [00:41:54] because I'm a naturally [00:41:55] suspicious person. [00:41:56] Like [00:41:57] e- you [00:41:58] remember during [00:41:59] COVID, like [00:42:00] there were all [00:42:01] these like [00:42:02] scams [00:42:03] going around.[00:42:04]

Bruce Anthony: you're in scam [00:42:05] capital

Jay Aundrea: I'm [00:42:06] in the scam capital [00:42:07] of the world, [00:42:08] truly, [00:42:09] in Atlanta, [00:42:10] Georgia, but like [00:42:11] there were all these [00:42:12] like money [00:42:13] scams, Ponzi [00:42:14] schemes and stuff going [00:42:15] around.

I ain't never put [00:42:16] a dime in nothing. [00:42:17] And I have [00:42:18] friends [00:42:19] telling me, [00:42:20] "No, no, you make your [00:42:21] money back," and blah, blah, [00:42:22] blah. I said, "Okay, [00:42:23] [00:42:24] friend. Okay. [00:42:25] Not if you're the last [00:42:26] person on the [00:42:27] list."

Bruce Anthony: Skepticism [00:42:28] is one thing. You're a [00:42:29] cynic. Uh, [00:42:30] that's a completely different thing

Jay Aundrea: trust, I [00:42:31] don't trust, [00:42:32] I don't trust, [00:42:33] um, nah, I don't trust [00:42:34] nobody. No, [00:42:35] especially if you [00:42:36] asking me for my... I [00:42:37] don't-- And also, I [00:42:38] don't even think [00:42:39] crypto, Bitcoin, [00:42:40] all that stuff, it's not [00:42:41] even real. First of [00:42:42] all, money, money [00:42:43] is not real,[00:42:44]

Bruce Anthony: uh, money [00:42:45] is... Money, [00:42:46] I don't even know where you're [00:42:47] going with this now. This [00:42:48] has gone off the rails. [00:42:49] Where, money [00:42:50] isn't real?

Jay Aundrea: [00:42:51] but no, it's-- [00:42:52] we made it up. We [00:42:53] made up [00:42:54] currency.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. [00:42:55] Yes, but it's [00:42:56] real though.

Jay Aundrea: [00:42:57] things and we made it [00:42:58] up. And [00:42:59] so [00:43:00] all of this is made [00:43:01] up. I don't [00:43:02] see how people [00:43:03] making money [00:43:04] through [00:43:05] digital money... [00:43:06] I don't know what y'all are [00:43:07] talking about, and it all

Bruce Anthony: [00:43:08] much do you know about [00:43:09] crypto? [00:43:10] Uh, uh, crypto,[00:43:11]

Jay Aundrea: nothing[00:43:12]

Bruce Anthony: crypto, one of [00:43:13] my favorite [00:43:14] podcast [00:43:15] hosts, Bomani Jones, calls it [00:43:16] funny money, [00:43:17] crypto money, and I've [00:43:18] never gotten involved with [00:43:19] it. And every time people are [00:43:20] like, "Man, you need to get into this [00:43:21] crypto," I'm like, [00:43:22] "Seem like [00:43:23] gambling to me." [00:43:24] 'Cause the stock [00:43:25] market is gambling to me.

[00:43:26] They're like, "No, it's not [00:43:27] gambling." I'm like, "Yes, [00:43:28] it, it... If you [00:43:29] play..."

Jay Aundrea: just [00:43:30] gambling with analytics

Bruce Anthony: [00:43:31] Right. W- [00:43:32] w- uh, so is gambling. [00:43:33] Gambling is gambling [00:43:34] with analytics. It's all [00:43:35] analytics[00:43:36]

Jay Aundrea: I mean, you can't go to the [00:43:37] casino with your [00:43:38] laptop[00:43:39]

Bruce Anthony: [00:43:40] No, but you, but [00:43:41] you know odds. [00:43:42] You could card [00:43:43] count. Yeah, you, I mean, [00:43:44] you could do that type [00:43:45] stuff.

Jay Aundrea: but [00:43:46] the stock market [00:43:47] is just, it's just [00:43:48] gambling with better [00:43:49] analytics

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. [00:43:50] Yeah, that's all it [00:43:51] is. But we done gone [00:43:52] off on a tangent. Ladies and [00:43:53] gentlemen, look, [00:43:54] because [00:43:55] it's not just [00:43:56] women getting scammed by [00:43:57] men and men getting [00:43:58] scammed by women and [00:43:59] men getting scammed by [00:44:00] men and women getting [00:44:01] scammed by women and [00:44:02] people getting scammed by [00:44:03] people. [00:44:04] It's also old [00:44:05] people are constantly getting [00:44:06] scammed with all...[00:44:07]

Like, uh, look, [00:44:08] it was a whole [00:44:09] movie based off of The [00:44:10] Beekeeper that me and my [00:44:11] sisters just absolutely [00:44:12] love.

Jay Aundrea: Jason [00:44:13] Statham

Bruce Anthony: And Re- [00:44:14] [00:44:15] Phylicia Rashad. And let [00:44:16] me tell you something, [00:44:17] [00:44:18] when Phylicia [00:44:19] Rashad, spoiler [00:44:20] alert, committed [00:44:21] suicide 'cause she [00:44:22] had got scammed out of [00:44:23] her money, [00:44:24] [00:44:25] we wanted The [00:44:26] Beekeeper to get

Jay Aundrea: yeah, [00:44:27] I just knew the [00:44:28] Beekeeper was gonna [00:44:29] equalize.

Bruce Anthony: was [00:44:30] gonna equalize.

[00:44:31] And th- [00:44:32] scams are happening all over the [00:44:33] place. So [00:44:34] what are some things that you [00:44:35] could do to make [00:44:36] sure, or [00:44:37] at least attempt to make [00:44:38] sure that you gonna get [00:44:39] scammed? All right. [00:44:40] Never send [00:44:41] money to someone [00:44:42] you have only [00:44:43] met online[00:44:44]

Jay Aundrea: [00:44:45] Yeah[00:44:46]

Bruce Anthony: That's, that's a [00:44:47] key one.[00:44:48]

Jay Aundrea: Step one

Bruce Anthony: [00:44:49] That's a key one. [00:44:50] Reverse [00:44:51] image search the [00:44:52] profile [00:44:53] photo before [00:44:54] you trust it.[00:44:55]

I'm [00:44:56] king on reverse [00:44:57] imo- uh, uh, [00:44:58] image search. During the [00:44:59] pandemic, I was on all [00:45:00] these dating apps. [00:45:01] I was like, [00:45:02] "This [00:45:03] profile seem like [00:45:04] it's fake.

Jay Aundrea: [00:45:05] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: Let me [00:45:06] go ahead and reverse image [00:45:07] search." Sure [00:45:08] enough, I'd be seeing it [00:45:09] in different names all over [00:45:10] the place. I was like, [00:45:11] "You ain't gonna catfish [00:45:12] me. I done seen that show [00:45:13] too many [00:45:14] times."

Jay Aundrea: Yeah, I done [00:45:15] seen every [00:45:16] season. You ain't [00:45:17] gonna get me. [00:45:18] [00:45:19] You

Bruce Anthony: it [00:45:20] tripped me out when a [00:45:21] catfish don't be a [00:45:22] catfish, and this happened a [00:45:23] couple times [00:45:24] on that episode [00:45:25] on the

Jay Aundrea: very [00:45:26] strange, but [00:45:27] yeah. [00:45:28] But like, no, you, [00:45:29] you're not gonna get [00:45:30] me

Bruce Anthony: yeah, and here's a [00:45:31] final one, and this [00:45:32] backs up what [00:45:33] you've been saying [00:45:34] this entire segment. [00:45:35] [00:45:36] Treat an AI [00:45:37] answer as a [00:45:38] starting point. [00:45:39] [00:45:40] Click [00:45:41] through [00:45:42] to get to the [00:45:43] real sources.[00:45:44]

Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:45:45] Ladies and gentlemen, I [00:45:46] cannot stress it enough. [00:45:47] Do research,[00:45:48]

Jay Aundrea: [00:45:49] Yes

Bruce Anthony: [00:45:50] please. Please [00:45:51] do some [00:45:52] research

Jay Aundrea: Please [00:45:53] care more about your [00:45:54] pockets than y'all [00:45:55] do.

Bruce Anthony: Mm.[00:45:56]

Jay Aundrea: S- stop clicking [00:45:57] them links. [00:45:58] Stop, [00:45:59] stop-- [00:46:00] Look, [00:46:01] somebody in your [00:46:02] DMs and that it [00:46:03] seems like it's your friend, [00:46:04] it's not. Just [00:46:05] text your friend [00:46:06] and see if it's [00:46:07] actually them. [00:46:08] Like, that's [00:46:09] happened, and [00:46:10] we, we actually [00:46:11] played with that scammer for [00:46:12] a little bit.

Bruce Anthony: We [00:46:13] did, yeah.

Jay Aundrea: was [00:46:14] fun. [00:46:15] But like, [00:46:16] come on y'all, y'all [00:46:17] got to be a little bit more [00:46:18] discerning. I'm not saying [00:46:19] you gotta be like me and [00:46:20] be a complete [00:46:21] cynic. [00:46:22] That, I, I'm not [00:46:23] saying that.

Bruce Anthony: But be [00:46:24] skeptical.

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:25] be skeptical at [00:46:26] [00:46:27] [00:46:28] least.

Bruce Anthony: [00:46:29] A [00:46:30] cynic believes [00:46:31] everything is [00:46:32] always a lie. [00:46:33] A skeptical [00:46:34] asks the question, [00:46:35] "Is this a [00:46:36] lie?"

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:37] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: then follows [00:46:38] through. That's the [00:46:39] difference, so please, [00:46:40] at least be a [00:46:41] skeptic in life[00:46:42]

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:43] Yeah

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Bruce Anthony: [00:46:44] [00:46:45] [00:46:46] [00:46:47] [00:46:48] [00:46:49] [00:46:50] [00:46:51] What if you were [00:46:52] so confident in [00:46:53] your ability to [00:46:54] commit fraud that [00:46:55] you started selling a [00:46:56] class on [00:46:57] how to do it? [00:46:58] Samari [00:46:59] Brooks is a [00:47:00] 34-year-old man from [00:47:01] Stone Mountain, Georgia. [00:47:02] He also rapped [00:47:03] under the name [00:47:04] Junie [00:47:05] Notts, and on [00:47:06] August [00:47:07] 27th, [00:47:08] [00:47:09] 2026, he was sentenced to [00:47:10] six years in federal [00:47:11] prison [00:47:12] for bank r- [00:47:13] fraud and [00:47:14] agitated [00:47:15] identity theft.[00:47:16]

Jay Aundrea: Not [00:47:17] agitated?

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, [00:47:18] aggravated [00:47:19] identity theft. Excuse [00:47:20] [00:47:21] me.

Jay Aundrea: [00:47:22] You know what? It was [00:47:23] agitated too.[00:47:24]

Bruce Anthony: Look, [00:47:25] I'm [00:47:26] agitated to all these [00:47:27] scammers. But [00:47:28] check it out, that's not [00:47:29] even the crazy part. [00:47:30] Prosecutors [00:47:31] say Brooks was [00:47:32] stealing checks out of the mail, [00:47:33] altering them, and [00:47:34] then trying to run them through [00:47:35] other people's banks, [00:47:36] bank accounts. [00:47:37] That's just one layer of [00:47:38] the story. Here's the [00:47:39] second layer. [00:47:40] He allegedly turned the [00:47:41] whole thing into [00:47:42] a business.

He was [00:47:43] selling online [00:47:44] tutorials teaching [00:47:45] other people [00:47:46] how to commit [00:47:47] financial fraud. [00:47:48] So basically, [00:47:49] like, I'm a [00:47:50] criminal, and I'm gonna show [00:47:51] you how to be a criminal [00:47:52]

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Bruce Anthony: too.

Jay Aundrea: Yeah[00:47:53]

Bruce Anthony: [00:47:54] Except there's just [00:47:55] one [00:47:56] problem. His [00:47:57] scams [00:47:58] apparently didn't work. [00:47:59] Prosecutors say he [00:48:00] never [00:48:01] successfully passed the [00:48:02] checks. Law [00:48:03] enforcement found a bunch of [00:48:04] them still sitting [00:48:05] inside of his house, [00:48:06] and there's no evidence [00:48:07] that any [00:48:08] victims actually [00:48:09] lost money.

[00:48:10] So, uh, [00:48:11] let me make [00:48:12] it, paint a clear [00:48:13] picture. [00:48:14] He [00:48:15] allegedly [00:48:16] tried to commit fraud, [00:48:17] [00:48:18] couldn't get the [00:48:19] fraud to work, [00:48:20] and then started selling [00:48:21] tutorials teaching [00:48:22] people how to do [00:48:23] the fraud. [00:48:24] That's not a

Jay Aundrea: the [00:48:25] real scam.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, [00:48:26]

Jay Aundrea: real scam

Bruce Anthony: [00:48:27] that's not a [00:48:28] mastermind. That's a [00:48:29] failed criminal [00:48:30] entrepreneur. [00:48:31] And prosecutors [00:48:32] basically said his [00:48:33] boldness was [00:48:34] only matched by his ineptitude. [00:48:35] [00:48:36] [00:48:37] [00:48:38] [00:48:39] [00:48:40] So [00:48:41] Brooks pled [00:48:42] guilty, so unlike some of the [00:48:43] other stories

Jay Aundrea: got no [00:48:44] choice. They found [00:48:45] all the checks.

Bruce Anthony: they [00:48:46] found all the checks. [00:48:47] This isn't an [00:48:48] allegation. Uh, [00:48:49] he got six years, [00:48:50] like I said earlier, in [00:48:51] federal prison, and [00:48:52] apparently, the only [00:48:53] thing he successfully [00:48:54] passed [00:48:55] was getting caught. [00:48:56] So [00:48:57] another scammer [00:48:58] that [00:48:59] wasn't [00:49:00] successful, [00:49:01] but he was [00:49:02] selling stuff.

[00:49:03] Uh, and this ain't [00:49:04] far from [00:49:05] you.

Jay Aundrea: No, [00:49:06]

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Jay Aundrea: it's not. [00:49:07] Well, Stone Mountain ain't [00:49:08] close. If [00:49:09] anybody knows, uh, [00:49:10] Atlanta, [00:49:11] Stone Mountain ain't close, but [00:49:12] it's close [00:49:13] enough that [00:49:14] I n- [00:49:15] [00:49:16] listen, [00:49:17] Atlanta is [00:49:18] the, is the scamming [00:49:19] capital of the world. [00:49:20] I believe that. [00:49:21] I believe [00:49:22] one in three [00:49:23] people, this is a [00:49:24] statistic I completely [00:49:25] made up right now on the [00:49:26] spot, but one [00:49:27] in three people in [00:49:28] this, in this city is [00:49:29] scamming.

[00:49:30] Uh, and [00:49:31] [00:49:32] that is what I [00:49:33] 100% [00:49:34] feel, because [00:49:35] sometimes I see [00:49:36] people in these [00:49:37] luxury high li- [00:49:38] high-rises and they [00:49:39] ain't been to work, [00:49:40] uh, I ain't seen [00:49:41] them go to work, uh, [00:49:42] not one day, [00:49:43] and I'm just wondering[00:49:44]

Bruce Anthony: How[00:49:45]

Jay Aundrea: how? [00:49:46] Because you gotta [00:49:47] submit, [00:49:48] uh, uh, [00:49:49] uh, um, what [00:49:50] is it? Like your [00:49:51] income.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. [00:49:52] Sometimes, sometimes [00:49:53] they just go by your [00:49:54] credit score[00:49:55]

Jay Aundrea: In Atlanta, you gotta [00:49:56] submit your income [00:49:57] [00:49:58] to get an [00:49:59] apartment.

And [00:50:00] so there are people [00:50:01] that got [00:50:02] scams to get you [00:50:03] fake pay [00:50:04] stubs.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Well, that's [00:50:05] not really even [00:50:06] difficult

Jay Aundrea: [00:50:07] no, it's not. It's [00:50:08] literally just, you [00:50:09] know, [00:50:10] Microsoft Word[00:50:11]

Bruce Anthony: Uh, a little bit [00:50:12] more, little bit [00:50:13] more intricate than [00:50:14] Microsoft Word. But with AI, [00:50:15] you could [00:50:16] create a, you could [00:50:17] create a fake pay [00:50:18] stub [00:50:19] very easily. [00:50:20] The only thing is, [00:50:21] is like [00:50:22] you gotta [00:50:23] have like a, a real [00:50:24] company. The company [00:50:25] has to at [00:50:26] least [00:50:27] exist, [00:50:28] right? Before you [00:50:29] can, uh, could do [00:50:30] a pay stub. And [00:50:31] so I didn't know that was a [00:50:32] scam, uh, [00:50:33] that, uh, people [00:50:34] were, were doing.

Hmm,[00:50:35]

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Jay Aundrea: This is a lot of [00:50:36] scams down [00:50:37] here, so this [00:50:38] does not surprise [00:50:39] me. What does [00:50:40] surprise me is that [00:50:41] you're [00:50:42] trying [00:50:43] to make [00:50:44] money [00:50:45] telling people how [00:50:46] to do scams that [00:50:47] you have never done [00:50:48] successfully. And what it [00:50:49] reminds me of [00:50:50] is remember when we were [00:50:51] young and [00:50:52] there would be them [00:50:53] infomercials [00:50:54] of people, of [00:50:55] these guys living [00:50:56] this luxurious [00:50:57] life, and you can [00:50:58] too if you buy my [00:50:59] book and it's a Ponzi [00:51:00] scheme or something like [00:51:01] that.

It's the [00:51:02] same [00:51:03] thing. [00:51:04] You wanna be [00:51:05] rich, get rich [00:51:06] like me and do [00:51:07] this, and this-- [00:51:08] I'm getting rich off [00:51:09] of selling you the [00:51:10] books, chump, [00:51:11] because [00:51:12] you [00:51:13] [00:51:14] [00:51:15] 'Cause that's the [00:51:16] ultimate scam. [00:51:17] The scam [00:51:18] was the book.

Bruce Anthony: [00:51:19] Yes.[00:51:20]

Jay Aundrea: Yes[00:51:21]

Bruce Anthony: Uh, [00:51:22] he has-- My [00:51:23] thing is [00:51:24] it's been [00:51:25] documented that he's been doing [00:51:26] this from [00:51:27] January [00:51:28] [00:51:29] 2022. So as [00:51:30] soon as we got out the [00:51:31] pandemic, he, he [00:51:32] probably got himself a [00:51:33] PPP

Jay Aundrea: was prime [00:51:34] time. Like [00:51:35] pandemic [00:51:36] really [00:51:37] scamming in [00:51:38] Atlanta [00:51:39] exploded during the [00:51:40] pandemic [00:51:41] and them PPP [00:51:42] loans, boy, [00:51:43] [00:51:44] it exploded. [00:51:45] And so [00:51:46] now it's [00:51:47] really a art [00:51:48] like, [00:51:49] and, [00:51:50] uh, I've [00:51:51] seen some people [00:51:52] do it quite [00:51:53] well, [00:51:54] honestly, and [00:51:55] like, [00:51:56] especially like [00:51:57] scamming the [00:51:58] government, [00:51:59] and I seen [00:52:00] people get [00:52:01] tens of [00:52:02] thousands back from [00:52:03] taxes and [00:52:04] like different thing.

I'm [00:52:05] like, "Dang, how y'all [00:52:06] do that?" Oh, I got [00:52:07] a person. [00:52:08] Well, hook, hook [00:52:09] me up. I [00:52:10] don't want it.

Bruce Anthony: [00:52:11] no. I d- yeah, [00:52:12] don't do it. [00:52:13] That was the first

Jay Aundrea: [00:52:14] audit. [00:52:15] Nope, I-- [00:52:16] your girl, your [00:52:17] girl will do-- [00:52:18] I've done my own [00:52:19] taxes [00:52:20] my whole life, and I'm [00:52:21] gonna keep on doing my own[00:52:22]

Bruce Anthony: Well, [00:52:23] I think now

Jay Aundrea: not [00:52:24] gon'-

Bruce Anthony: [00:52:25] I, I would [00:52:26] say this. We asked [00:52:27] the question at the [00:52:28] top, [00:52:29] everybody is scamming, [00:52:30] should we? No. [00:52:31] No. [00:52:32] I

Jay Aundrea: 'cause I'm [00:52:33] not, I'm not going to [00:52:34] federal prison.[00:52:35]

Bruce Anthony: So but my [00:52:36]

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Bruce Anthony: man did [00:52:37] this from January [00:52:38] 2022 [00:52:39] through November [00:52:40] 2025, [00:52:41] right? So he would take the [00:52:42] stolen checks from the [00:52:43] mail, then he [00:52:44] used social media to [00:52:45] recruit people with [00:52:46] existing bank accounts to [00:52:47] act as [00:52:48] deposit accounts, and [00:52:49] he would alter the [00:52:50] stolen checks to make [00:52:51] these, [00:52:52] uh, [00:52:53] to, [00:52:54] with the account holders, [00:52:55] right?

[00:52:56] Um, [00:52:57] and then [00:52:58] he would go and [00:52:59] deposit them throughout [00:53:00] different ATMs [00:53:01] in the me- in the [00:53:02] Atlanta metro [00:53:03] area. [00:53:04] And he [00:53:05] had a, [00:53:06] a, a [00:53:07] [00:53:08] calling card [00:53:09] basically because he [00:53:10] wore a certain [00:53:11] mask,[00:53:12]

Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:53:13] and on that mask [00:53:14] it read, "No [00:53:15] free sauce," [00:53:16] why he was making these [00:53:17] deposits. [00:53:18] Now the combined [00:53:19] face value for [00:53:20] all the stolen checks was [00:53:21] [00:53:22] $6.5 million, [00:53:23] right?

[00:53:24] So but I [00:53:25] said something at the top, [00:53:26] [00:53:27] that it didn't [00:53:28] actually work.

Jay Aundrea: didn't [00:53:29] work.

Bruce Anthony: It didn't [00:53:30] work. So [00:53:31] he would [00:53:32] deposit these checks, [00:53:33] but he wasn't [00:53:34] withdrawing no money [00:53:35] out because [00:53:36] these checks weren't [00:53:37] clearing.

Jay Aundrea: [00:53:38] Yeah. Yeah[00:53:39]

Bruce Anthony: doing fraud [00:53:40] for three years, [00:53:41] but not [00:53:42] really doing fraud[00:53:43]

Jay Aundrea: Not really [00:53:44] doing fraud. And it, and it [00:53:45] honestly is like, [00:53:46] okay, once you tried it the [00:53:47] first time... 'Cause [00:53:48] here's the thing, you [00:53:49] can't just [00:53:50] deposit a check [00:53:51] and it just, [00:53:52] the money appear. [00:53:53] The bank gotta [00:53:54] verify it

Bruce Anthony: [00:53:55] Yes.[00:53:56]

Jay Aundrea: [00:53:57] So you can't [00:53:58] just change the [00:53:59] payee [00:54:00] and think, " [00:54:01] Oh, this is, [00:54:02] this, this is gonna [00:54:03] work." It's not gonna [00:54:04] work.

And [00:54:05] it didn't work [00:54:06] for [00:54:07] three years.[00:54:08] [00:54:09] [00:54:10]

Bruce Anthony: But [00:54:11] I bet you he made the [00:54:12] money off the [00:54:13] tutorials

Jay Aundrea: I [00:54:14] bet you he [00:54:15] definitely, [00:54:16] definitely, [00:54:17] definitely did [00:54:18] because the [00:54:19] fact that [00:54:20] I could [00:54:21] ask [00:54:22] someone here [00:54:23] in Atlanta, "Do y'all [00:54:24] know what Sauce [00:54:25] books are?" And they'd be [00:54:26] like, "Oh yeah, [00:54:27] you talking about [00:54:28] Junie Notts, them books on scamming?" [00:54:29] That's [00:54:30] crazy [00:54:31] work, and that [00:54:32] also lets me [00:54:33] know he made some money [00:54:34] off them books.[00:54:35]

Bruce Anthony: Uh-huh.

Jay Aundrea: [00:54:36] For sure

Bruce Anthony: and [00:54:37] that he was [00:54:38] semi-popular [00:54:39] doing it. [00:54:40] Um, [00:54:41] look, [00:54:42] I... [00:54:43] [00:54:44] The fir- in the [00:54:45] last segment, [00:54:46] the John [00:54:47] Love [00:54:48] was actually [00:54:49] scamming. He [00:54:50] got [00:54:51] $1.3 million, right? This [00:54:52] [00:54:53] [00:54:54] $6.5 million [00:54:55] figure is [00:54:56] what they could have [00:54:57] gotten, is what [00:54:58] all the checks [00:54:59] amounted to, [00:55:00] but he ain't [00:55:01] get a dime.

Jay Aundrea: [00:55:02] Not

one [00:55:03] single

Bruce Anthony: not [00:55:04] a single [00:55:05] [00:55:06] solitary [00:55:07] cent. [00:55:08] So is it really scamming?[00:55:09]

Jay Aundrea: [00:55:10] Here's the thing. [00:55:11] I-- [00:55:12] [00:55:13] Okay, he failed at [00:55:14] that, but he was [00:55:15] [00:55:16] successful selling the [00:55:17] books, [00:55:18] his [00:55:19] music, his merch, [00:55:20] [00:55:21] all of that. He made [00:55:22] money. [00:55:23] He just didn't get [00:55:24] that 6.5 [00:55:25] mil

Bruce Anthony: So, [00:55:26]

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Bruce Anthony: so [00:55:27] if you've been doing it [00:55:28] for three years [00:55:29] and you ain't getting not [00:55:30] a dime, but you're starting [00:55:31] to get money [00:55:32] [00:55:33] perpetrating the fraud that [00:55:34] you are a [00:55:35] scammer, why [00:55:36] not just stop [00:55:37] breaking [00:55:38] the law [00:55:39] that you're [00:55:40] not getting any [00:55:41] money from [00:55:42] and just lie to [00:55:43] the pe- We're used to rappers [00:55:44] lying.

Jay Aundrea: [00:55:45] [00:55:46] [00:55:47] [00:55:48] Yes.

Bruce Anthony: [00:55:49] You ain't got to falsify [00:55:50] checks

Jay Aundrea: [00:55:51] plenty, uh, there are plenty [00:55:52] of rappers who [00:55:53] lived a regular, [00:55:54] normal life [00:55:55] that rap [00:55:56] about being in the [00:55:57] game and being [00:55:58] thugs and killers, and [00:55:59] we like, you [00:56:00] grew up [00:56:01] on a, [00:56:02] on a street [00:56:03] called Shady [00:56:04] Oaks Lane. [00:56:05] That [00:56:06] lets me [00:56:07] know that it was a [00:56:08] nice little [00:56:09] suburb. Like, [00:56:10] please, you perpetrate. [00:56:11] Yeah, like I [00:56:12] would've just leaned [00:56:13] in [00:56:14] to the [00:56:15] double fraud, which is [00:56:16] what it is.

[00:56:17] You pretended-- [00:56:18] You're [00:56:19] fraudulently pretending [00:56:20] to be a [00:56:21] fraudster. [00:56:22] It's a double fraud. [00:56:23] So I would've just [00:56:24] leaned into the double [00:56:25] fraud and sold the [00:56:26] books and the [00:56:27] merch. [00:56:28] [00:56:29] Why kee- 'cause, like, [00:56:30] you know what it was? [00:56:31] The prosecutor [00:56:32] said it. He's inept. [00:56:33] He thought it would [00:56:34] work at least [00:56:35] once. It--[00:56:36]

Bruce Anthony: [00:56:37] Over three years?[00:56:38]

Jay Aundrea: was gonna keep on [00:56:39] trying.

Hey, we've been [00:56:40] doing this podcast for [00:56:41] three years. [00:56:42] [00:56:43] [00:56:44] [00:56:45] It's [00:56:46] gonna work. It's called [00:56:47] [00:56:48] consistency. You gotta be [00:56:49] consistent.[00:56:50]

Bruce Anthony: Or, [00:56:51] [00:56:52] or [00:56:53] insanity.[00:56:54]

Jay Aundrea: Or [00:56:55] insanity, one [00:56:56] or the other. [00:56:57] The [00:56:58] purpose, the [00:56:59] point is you [00:57:00] consistent either [00:57:01] way. It's about [00:57:02] consistency. Yeah[00:57:03]

Bruce Anthony: uh, ah, if, [00:57:04] if, uh, [00:57:05] uh, I, I get what [00:57:06] you're saying with the [00:57:07] comparison with the podcast. [00:57:08] That's a funny, that's a [00:57:09] funny analogy. [00:57:10] [00:57:11] However, we [00:57:12] have grown. We [00:57:13] have seen some [00:57:14] benefits from doing the[00:57:15]

Jay Aundrea: So did he [00:57:16] and them books[00:57:17]

Bruce Anthony: but not [00:57:18] from the actual [00:57:19] altering [00:57:20] of the checks. [00:57:21] So [00:57:22] just stop [00:57:23] altering the check. [00:57:24] Why keep [00:57:25] going for three years?[00:57:26]

Why? [00:57:27] Eventually...

Jay Aundrea: why

Bruce Anthony: And [00:57:28] why?[00:57:29]

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:30] Why keep do- [00:57:31] [00:57:32] Listen, it's the [00:57:33] same

Bruce Anthony: No, [00:57:34] it's not the same thing. [00:57:35] And why [00:57:36] draw attention? [00:57:37] Why, if you [00:57:38] gonna commit [00:57:39] fraud,

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:40] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: why, [00:57:41] if you are [00:57:42] breaking the law, [00:57:43] are [00:57:44] you gonna have a [00:57:45] signature [00:57:46] with a certain [00:57:47] mask [00:57:48] every single [00:57:49] time talking [00:57:50] about free [00:57:51] sauce? [00:57:52] I, I don't even [00:57:53] know... No free [00:57:54] sauce. I don't even know [00:57:55] what that means.

[00:57:56] That's a young people [00:57:57] saying? What does that mean?

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:58] I don't know what it [00:57:59] means. [00:58:00] Um, we can look at [00:58:01] a, a, an [00:58:02] urban dictionary, but [00:58:03] I don't know what that [00:58:04] means. But the thing [00:58:05] of, the thing of it is, [00:58:06] is like [00:58:07] he-- [00:58:08] [00:58:09] It's, it's [00:58:10] the image, right? He [00:58:11] was selling the [00:58:12] image of doing [00:58:13] fraud and committing [00:58:14] fraud, even though he [00:58:15] was a fraud at [00:58:16] being a fraud, [00:58:17] double fraud. [00:58:18] Like he was selling [00:58:19] the image [00:58:20] and he [00:58:21] was profiting [00:58:22] off of that [00:58:23] image.

[00:58:24] Now, could he [00:58:25] have stopped doing the [00:58:26] actual [00:58:27] fraud? Well, [00:58:28] at this point [00:58:29] he already [00:58:30] started and so [00:58:31] like [00:58:32] regardless-- But I mean, [00:58:33] like the first time he [00:58:34] did it, [00:58:35] you was-- you gonna go [00:58:36] down if they [00:58:37] catch you, right? So you [00:58:38] might as well keep [00:58:39] being consistent[00:58:40]

Bruce Anthony: There is a [00:58:41] statute of limitations [00:58:42] on certain crimes. [00:58:43] Had he stopped the first year, I don't know what the statute of [00:58:44] [00:58:45] [00:58:46] limitations are. They [00:58:47] typically run five, 10, [00:58:48] 15 years, [00:58:49] right? [00:58:50] Had he [00:58:51] just [00:58:52] not do- had he [00:58:53] just stopped [00:58:54] after the first time, like, "Oh, [00:58:55] this didn't work," [00:58:56] I [00:58:57] would be to... [00:58:58] My heart rate [00:58:59] would be through the [00:59:00] roof every [00:59:01] time I [00:59:02] deposited one of them [00:59:03] checks.

'Cause [00:59:04] eventually, you [00:59:05] going around the metro area, [00:59:06] who's to say that [00:59:07] he was using [00:59:08] different banks? [00:59:09] Who's to [00:59:10] say?

Jay Aundrea: d- no, I [00:59:11] guarantee this dumb [00:59:12] dumb was using the [00:59:13] same four or five [00:59:14] ATMs

Bruce Anthony: P- [00:59:15] he was using [00:59:16] PNC and Capital One [00:59:17] everywhere. Everywhere he [00:59:18] went [00:59:19] PNC and [00:59:20] Capital One. [00:59:21] I, I [00:59:22] understand [00:59:23] the, the scam [00:59:24] that he was running [00:59:25] after the fact, [00:59:26] right? Our, our [00:59:27] president and that's in [00:59:28] the United States [00:59:29] Oval Office [00:59:30] right now

Jay Aundrea: [00:59:31] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:59:32] running[00:59:33]

Jay Aundrea: They're running the [00:59:34] same scam. [00:59:35] Yes

Bruce Anthony: type of scam. Say, say they something, [00:59:36] sell you on [00:59:37] something, they not [00:59:38] that, but you

Jay Aundrea: [00:59:39] Did anybody get [00:59:40] they phones? They [00:59:41] little gold

Bruce Anthony: They, uh, [00:59:42] I, they did [00:59:43] start to... [00:59:44] After he made that trip to [00:59:45] China

Jay Aundrea: [00:59:46] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:59:47] 'cause,

Jay Aundrea: [00:59:48] So they're [00:59:49] non-American [00:59:50] made gold [00:59:51] phones?

Bruce Anthony: they [00:59:52] changed it. They said it was gonna [00:59:53] be [00:59:54] American-made, and it was [00:59:55] inspired [00:59:56] by [00:59:57] America.

But [00:59:58] anyway, [00:59:59] scamming. [01:00:00] Just stick to the [01:00:01] scam that's [01:00:02] actually [01:00:03] working

Jay Aundrea: Yeah[01:00:04]

Bruce Anthony: because that, it [01:00:05] wasn't-- [01:00:06] That [01:00:07] is legal. What he [01:00:08] was doing, [01:00:09] I [01:00:10] think, were

Jay Aundrea: [01:00:11] I [01:00:12] don't think [01:00:13] so. You can't [01:00:14] just [01:00:15] release [01:00:16] tutorials [01:00:17] on how to commit [01:00:18] crimes. I [01:00:19] feel like [01:00:20] that's [01:00:21] not legal[01:00:22]

Bruce Anthony: I don't know. [01:00:23] You could say that's [01:00:24] artistic freedom. [01:00:25] That might [01:00:26] be under f- [01:00:27] uh, the [01:00:28] First Amendment, the [01:00:29] freedom of

Jay Aundrea: that might be [01:00:30] protected? I

Bruce Anthony: [01:00:31] might be, I've gotta have to [01:00:32] talk to my lawyer [01:00:33] friends

Jay Aundrea: Yeah, [01:00:34] there's a lot of caveats [01:00:35] to that. Like you [01:00:36] can't like incite [01:00:37] violence with your [01:00:38] speech. You can't do... [01:00:39] So like I, [01:00:40] this

Bruce Anthony: don't think this is [01:00:41] just citing violence [01:00:42] though. This is, this is,

Jay Aundrea: [01:00:43] But like there's [01:00:44] caveats

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, true,

Jay Aundrea: the [01:00:45] First Amendment, [01:00:46] so there might be a [01:00:47] caveat [01:00:48] for [01:00:49] if your [01:00:50] speech [01:00:51] in some way [01:00:52] in- incites [01:00:53] or [01:00:54] facilitates people [01:00:55] doing [01:00:56] crimes, you might [01:00:57] not be able [01:00:58] to do that.

But [01:00:59] I mean, if he [01:01:00] sold the books as [01:01:01] fiction,[01:01:02]

Bruce Anthony: There you go[01:01:03]

Jay Aundrea: you know, [01:01:04] or so- hey, [01:01:05] hey.

Bruce Anthony: See, that's a [01:01:06] scam. [01:01:07] Not this [01:01:08] inept scam that he was [01:01:09] doing. Well, [01:01:10] okay, look, [01:01:11] basically [01:01:12] the hit song [01:01:13] is Where All [01:01:14] My Scammers At. [01:01:15] They [01:01:16] here. They [01:01:17] here.

Jay Aundrea: here. They're in [01:01:18] Atlanta.

Bruce Anthony: y'all was [01:01:19] asking for them.[01:01:20]

Jay Aundrea: Yeah,

Bruce Anthony: [01:01:21] Be careful what you [01:01:22] ask for [01:01:23] 'cause you was singing that [01:01:24] song and you can get [01:01:25] scammed out your money [01:01:26] like my man Dijon [01:01:27] Love, and [01:01:28] I'm sure [01:01:29] Junie not [01:01:30] scammed some other [01:01:31] people out of, out of [01:01:32] they money as [01:01:33] well.

I, I, yeah, [01:01:34] I know he probably

Jay Aundrea: [01:01:35] who bought [01:01:36] anything he was [01:01:37] selling got scammed [01:01:38] [01:01:39] because he's a double [01:01:40] fraudster

Bruce Anthony: [01:01:41] Jay, what do you want to leave [01:01:42] these people [01:01:43] with?

Jay Aundrea: Look, [01:01:44] if [01:01:45] you're looking for the [01:01:46] scammers [01:01:47] [01:01:48] and the, and the, and the [01:01:49] girls, [01:01:50] uh, [01:01:51] stuffing that in [01:01:52] they bag, [01:01:53] [01:01:54] okay? The [01:01:55] boosting [01:01:56] ones, they [01:01:57] here in the [01:01:58] Atlanta metro [01:01:59] area. Uh, you [01:02:00] could throw a rock and [01:02:01] find them. Again, that [01:02:02] made up statistic, [01:02:03] one in [01:02:04] three people is out [01:02:05] here in the metro [01:02:06] Atlanta area [01:02:07] scamming. Made it [01:02:08] up off the [01:02:09] top of my head, [01:02:10] but I'm pretty sure [01:02:11] it's probably [01:02:12] close[01:02:13] [01:02:14]

Bruce Anthony: [01:02:15] Oh my

Jay Aundrea: [01:02:16] W-watch your [01:02:17] neck when you come down [01:02:18] here. Guard your [01:02:19] wallet. [01:02:20] Okay? [01:02:21] [01:02:22] And don't [01:02:23] trust a QR [01:02:24] code, even if [01:02:25] it looks like [01:02:26] it's the QR code you [01:02:27] need to park. [01:02:28] It's a [01:02:29] scam.

Bruce Anthony: [01:02:30] [01:02:31] Oh [01:02:32]

The Real Lesson: It's Not About Scams, It's All About Evidence 🔎🧠💯

Bruce Anthony: my goodness. For [01:02:33] me, [01:02:34] I wanna bring this all [01:02:35] back around for a [01:02:36] second, [01:02:37] because on the surface, [01:02:38] these two stories [01:02:39] don't really have [01:02:40] much in common as [01:02:41] far as the s- [01:02:42] actual scams are [01:02:43] concerned. [01:02:44] Dejon Love [01:02:45] allegedly created a fake [01:02:46] life, fake [01:02:47] football career, fake [01:02:48] money, fake [01:02:49] investments, and allegedly [01:02:50] used the internet and [01:02:51] AI [01:02:52] to make that [01:02:53] lie look [01:02:54] legitimate.

[01:02:55] Shamari Brooks, [01:02:56] not [01:02:57] allegedly, built a [01:02:58] whole business [01:02:59] around the appearance that [01:03:00] he knew how to [01:03:01] commit fraud, even [01:03:02] though [01:03:03] prosecutors say the actual [01:03:04] check scheme [01:03:05] never produced [01:03:06] a known [01:03:07] financial [01:03:08] loss to any [01:03:09] victims or [01:03:10] financial gain [01:03:11] to his [01:03:12] pockets.

Jay Aundrea: The [01:03:13] more

Bruce Anthony: the more I thought [01:03:14] about these stories, the [01:03:15] more I realized [01:03:16] this isn't really about [01:03:17] scams.

Jay Aundrea: [01:03:18] they adopted

Bruce Anthony: It's about [01:03:19] evidence. [01:03:20] Because people have [01:03:21] always lied. [01:03:22] That's nothing new. [01:03:23] What's new is [01:03:24] how easy it is to [01:03:25] build an entire [01:03:26] world around the [01:03:27] lie. A picture [01:03:28] can be fake, a [01:03:29] video can be fake, [01:03:30] a social media [01:03:31] profile can be [01:03:32] fake, and [01:03:33] now apparently [01:03:34] even the thing you [01:03:35] use to [01:03:36] fact-check somebody can [01:03:37] give you the wrong [01:03:38] answer with [01:03:39] complete [01:03:40] confidence.[01:03:41]

That's [01:03:42] what's happening here. [01:03:43] The women didn't just [01:03:44] take this man's [01:03:45] word for it. They [01:03:46] searched for him, and the [01:03:47] machine allegedly [01:03:48] gave them confirmation [01:03:49] that [01:03:50] what they were looking [01:03:51] for was [01:03:52] exactly what [01:03:53] he was [01:03:54] saying that he was. [01:03:55] The thing that he [01:03:56] used to [01:03:57] verify the lie [01:03:58] actually [01:03:59] became part of the [01:04:00] lie.

And [01:04:01] that's bigger than AI, [01:04:02] because we're [01:04:03] entering a world where the [01:04:04] appearance of proof can be [01:04:05] manufactured just as [01:04:06] easily as the lie [01:04:07] itself. [01:04:08] So I don't think the [01:04:09] answer is to stop [01:04:10] believing everything. [01:04:11] That's [01:04:12] not [01:04:13] skepticism, that's [01:04:14] cynicism. [01:04:15] That's my sister. [01:04:16] I'm more [01:04:17] of a skeptic. [01:04:18] I think the [01:04:19] answer is [01:04:20] learning to [01:04:21] slow down.[01:04:22]

Ask where [01:04:23] something came [01:04:24] from. Find the [01:04:25] original source. [01:04:26] Ask who [01:04:27] benefits if you [01:04:28] believe it. And [01:04:29] maybe, most [01:04:30] importantly, [01:04:31] ask what would [01:04:32] prove you [01:04:33] wrong? [01:04:34] Because if you're going to live [01:04:35] in a world where [01:04:36] seeing it isn't [01:04:37] necessarily believing, [01:04:38] searching isn't [01:04:39] necessarily [01:04:40] verifying, and evidence isn't [01:04:41] necessarily [01:04:42] [01:04:43] evidence, then we [01:04:44] can't outsource our [01:04:45] judgment. The [01:04:46] technology is only [01:04:47] going to get [01:04:48] better at [01:04:49] creating convincing [01:04:50] realities, so we have [01:04:51] to get better at [01:04:52] questioning them [01:04:53] because here's the [01:04:54] uncomfortable part people don't [01:04:55] want to talk about. [01:04:56] We're not just [01:04:57] entering a world where [01:04:58] people can lie to [01:04:59] us.

We're entering [01:05:00] a world [01:05:01] where they can make the [01:05:02] evidence look [01:05:03] like it's telling the [01:05:04] truth, [01:05:05] and that's a whole [01:05:06] different game, [01:05:07] and we need [01:05:08] to pay [01:05:09] close attention to it. [01:05:10] [01:05:11] Ladies and gentlemen, I want to [01:05:12] thank you for listening. [01:05:13] I want to [01:05:14] thank you for [01:05:15] watching, and [01:05:16] until next [01:05:17] time, as [01:05:18] always, [01:05:19] [01:05:20] I'll [01:05:21] holla

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