White Supremacy, Black Cinema—Let’s Go 🎬🔥🧠

[00:00:00] Bruce Anthony: White supremacy and black cinema. We gonna get into it. [00:00:05] Let's get it.

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Sibling Happy Hour: Debates, Deep Truths, and Chaos 💥😏🥂

[00:00:45] Bruce Anthony: I'm here with my SISs Jay, Andrea. We gonna be dilly daddying a little bit. Then we're gonna be talking about [00:00:50] white supremacy, and then we're gonna be talking about the top 10 black movies. [00:00:55] But that's enough of the intro. Let's get to the show.

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[00:01:06] Bruce Anthony: What up sis?

[00:01:07] Jay Aundrea: What up brother?

[00:01:08] Bruce Anthony: I can't call it. [00:01:10] I can't call it. I did something this weekend

[00:01:14] Jay Aundrea: Oh [00:01:15] boy.

[00:01:15] Bruce Anthony: and, well, it wasn't anything too crazy, but I watched the, [00:01:20] uh,

last what supposedly was billed as the last [00:01:25] Denzel Washington Spike Lee movie.

[00:01:28] Jay Aundrea: Okay.

[00:01:29] Bruce Anthony: [00:01:30] Highest to the lowest. Have you watched it?

[00:01:33] Jay Aundrea: Is that the one [00:01:35] where the, no, I don't think, [00:01:40] is that the one where son is kidnapped?

[00:01:43] Bruce Anthony: Yes.

[00:01:43] Jay Aundrea: Yes, I have seen [00:01:45] that, yes.

[00:01:45] Bruce Anthony: Okay. What did you think about the movie? [00:01:50] Yeah, that, okay. Ladies and gentlemen, if y'all not watching the video, my sister made a [00:01:55] face. There's like, yeah.

[00:01:57] Jay Aundrea: Yeah.

I honestly don't think I [00:02:00] finished it.

[00:02:01] Bruce Anthony: and, and I don't blame you.

I finished it because [00:02:05] I'm not going to not watch a Denzel movie all the way through

because no matter [00:02:10] what, I'm waiting for those Denzel scenes, and he did give them to me.

He gave me those Denzel scenes.[00:02:15]

[00:02:15] Jay Aundrea: Yeah.

[00:02:15] Bruce Anthony: However, typically, a Spike Lee [00:02:20] joint has a message, an overarching theme throughout [00:02:25] the entire movie, and then you're supposed to learn something. There's the reason why I love Spike Lee's [00:02:30] movies, the older

[00:02:31] Jay Aundrea: Yes. Yeah,

[00:02:32] Bruce Anthony: There was, I don't, I don't know [00:02:35] the story in this one. Yeah, his son is kidnapped, but [00:02:40] it's like.

Not really a good kidnapping [00:02:45] and,

and, and, it seems like sophisticated, uh, what he was [00:02:50] certificate, what the kidnapper is asking for. But the person that's the [00:02:55] kidnapper wasn't that sophisticated and they figured it out [00:03:00] before the cops did. And I'm just like, what the hell? At the end of the movie I [00:03:05] was like, what the

When the Plot Falls Apart 😬📉🎬

[00:03:05] Bruce Anthony: hell did I just watch for two hours?

[00:03:07] Jay Aundrea: right. And I [00:03:10] feel like. There was a lot [00:03:15] put into like, him being this music [00:03:20] mogul, and there were, it ended up being like very little [00:03:25] payoff regarding that. Like,

[00:03:29] Bruce Anthony: Very,[00:03:30]

very little payoff.

[00:03:31] Jay Aundrea: it felt like they put a lot into that [00:03:35] in the beginning of the movie. Again, I didn't finish it because I was like, okay. [00:03:40] Because it isn't, it wasn't his son, it was, it, it [00:03:45] ended up being Jeffrey Wright's son

[00:03:48] Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.

[00:03:49] Jay Aundrea: [00:03:50] that was taken, and I was like, oh, I see where this is going.

Like, he's [00:03:55] probably not gonna put up the money for this, you know, 'cause [00:04:00] why would he, you know, like,

[00:04:02] Bruce Anthony: Because that's his, that's his, it was his godson. I mean, [00:04:05] it wasn't his son, but it was his godson. I'm sorry. If my goddaughter was kidnapped, I'm gonna find the money.

[00:04:09] Jay Aundrea: [00:04:10] Oh yeah,

[00:04:10] Bruce Anthony: no money, but if I, if she was kidnapped, I'm gonna find the money.

[00:04:14] Jay Aundrea: Right.[00:04:15]

[00:04:15] Bruce Anthony: So I,

[00:04:16] Jay Aundrea: yeah, and I was just like, uh, all right.

[00:04:19] Bruce Anthony: ladies and gentlemen, I, [00:04:20] I'm not go watch it for yourself, but I had an interesting conversation with a friend of mine earlier

Is Spike Lee Past His Prime? 🎥🕰️😳

[00:04:24] Bruce Anthony: [00:04:25] today and they were just like, you surprised a Spike Lee movie wasn't good? And I was like, hold up. [00:04:30] Spike Lee is a. Film Genius.

[00:04:33] Jay Aundrea: Yeah. Like, wait a [00:04:35] minute.

[00:04:35] Bruce Anthony: they were like, yeah, old Spike Lee.

But when was the last time he's had a really good movie? And I had to think [00:04:40] about it. And then it came to me, black Klansman. 'cause that's the reason why he was [00:04:45] upset that the Green Book won over Black Klansman. And he had a, he had a, [00:04:50] you know, a tipper tantrum. And I still haven't seen the Green Book, but I can understand why that will [00:04:55] win.

' cause that ain't nothing but a driving Miss Dady in reverse.

[00:04:58] Jay Aundrea: Right. Nobody wants to [00:05:00] see black empowerment. They wanna see black suffering, so that's why that.

[00:05:04] Bruce Anthony: Okay.[00:05:05]

[00:05:05] Jay Aundrea: I mean,

[00:05:06] Bruce Anthony: that's one way to attack that. We gonna get into white supremacy in the second s [00:05:10] uh, the second segment. But outside of that, it has [00:05:15] been a little mini since Spike had A-A-A-A-A slammer. [00:05:20] My man was like, Hey, did you see Chirac? I was like, no, I actually haven't seen it. He was like, ain't no reason for you [00:05:25] two.

[00:05:25] Jay Aundrea: Yeah.

[00:05:27] Bruce Anthony: Ugh. Yeah.

[00:05:29] Jay Aundrea: mean, the [00:05:30] last like commercial success I think was inside Man, [00:05:35] and that was 2006. And then he really just did a, like a [00:05:40] handful of film sporadically over the years. So

Remember When Spike Was Must-See? 🏃🏾‍♂️🎞️🔥

[00:05:44] Bruce Anthony: [00:05:45] But 2006 was 20 years ago that that was the point that my friend was making. [00:05:50] And it was like, yeah, like I don't know why you would expect a good movie.

[00:05:53] Jay Aundrea: well, the thing is [00:05:55] like, I think he. Got to a point in his career at that point where it's [00:06:00] like, okay, I can make the movies I wanna make.

Well, he's always made the movies he wants to

make, but like in the [00:06:05] time he wants to make them,

[00:06:07] Bruce Anthony: Hmm.

[00:06:08] Jay Aundrea: Like he doesn't have [00:06:10] to hustle as hard as he is did between 86 and [00:06:15] and 2000, right. Where he

is like coming out with a [00:06:20] movie a year. So I mean, I can't really say, 'cause I [00:06:25] didn't see Miracle at St. Ana. I didn't see Red Hook Summer.

I didn't see Old Boy. I [00:06:30] didn't see the Sweet Blood of Jesus. I didn't see Chirac,

I didn't see Black [00:06:35] Klansmen. I didn't see the five Bloods.

[00:06:37] Bruce Anthony: I didn't. Okay. Blacks Klansman was the on [00:06:40] Black Klansman, not Blacks. Klansman, black Klansman was the only one of those movies [00:06:45] that I actually saw. But that goes to my friend's larger point. It used to be a [00:06:50] time where Spike Lee joint, we were running to the movie theater

[00:06:53] Jay Aundrea: Right.

[00:06:54] Bruce Anthony: [00:06:55] to go see it.

And I can't remember the last time I ran to the movie [00:07:00] theater to go see a Spike Lee joint.

[00:07:02] Jay Aundrea: Inside, man.

[00:07:03] Bruce Anthony: I didn't run to the movie theater. I waited for [00:07:05] that to come out on DVD.

[00:07:06] Jay Aundrea: Well, it was good.

[00:07:07] Bruce Anthony: It was good. And that was the [00:07:10] last good Denzel Spike Lee movie. But their, but their start [00:07:15] was Mo Better Blues and then Malcolm X, so it's, it's only downhill from [00:07:20] that 'cause you can't top

[00:07:21] Jay Aundrea: Pretty

[00:07:22] Bruce Anthony: Malcolm X

[00:07:23] Jay Aundrea: Yeah. [00:07:25] Yeah, Mo better, I mean, yeah. Malcolm X, did [00:07:30] he get the Oscar for that? Oh, he got an Oscar nom.

[00:07:33] Bruce Anthony: Yeah, he got a Oscar. Him and [00:07:35] Denzel both got an Oscar. Nah, bane win it.

[00:07:37] Jay Aundrea: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

right. They were both nominated best [00:07:40] actor. Actually he was not nominated for [00:07:45] screenplay or director for, for Malcolm X, it

was [00:07:50] best actor and best costume design. Those were the only two, uh, nominations

[00:07:55] for

[00:07:55] Bruce Anthony: sounds about right. That sounds about right. But I finish the [00:08:00] movie. Finish the movie it, because there's a great. Musical [00:08:05] performance at the end. And I found my new crush. You know, I got to [00:08:10] have at least 17 celebrity crushes revolving in my brain at one time, and I [00:08:15] found a new one. Uh, and, and she performs at the end.

So

[00:08:19] Jay Aundrea: Is that [00:08:20] the one who performed like part of the, like she was in the lobby of [00:08:25] his

[00:08:25] Bruce Anthony: nope,

not her, not her. Somebody else. Yeah.

Uh, [00:08:30] speaking of awards, Tiana Taylor won a Golden Globe [00:08:35] Award for best performance by a female actor in a supporting role in the ham picture [00:08:40] for one battle after another. I have not seen that movie.[00:08:45]

[00:08:45] Jay Aundrea: Yeah,

I haven't seen it either, but I love Tiana Taylor. I love everybody that's in [00:08:50] that movie, so I'm very excited

[00:08:51] Bruce Anthony: You love Tiana Taylor as a person or an actress.

[00:08:54] Jay Aundrea: [00:08:55] both

as a, as a singer, first

as a recording [00:09:00] artist first,

[00:09:01] Bruce Anthony: Yes.

[00:09:02] Jay Aundrea: As an actress, I don't really know. I don't [00:09:05] know her as a person, so I can't really say.

[00:09:07] Bruce Anthony: and through interviews and she seemed

like, you [00:09:10] know, yeah, she seemed cool.

[00:09:12] Jay Aundrea: she Like a typical New York [00:09:15] woman, just cool and, but with a mouth.

Sex Symbols, Teyana Taylor Has Eartha Kitt Energy 🐈‍⬛🔥👑

[00:09:19] Bruce Anthony: I had, I [00:09:20] had an epiphany

while watching. I didn't watch the Golden Globes. I was watching the [00:09:25] highlights. She reminds me of what Eartha kit was in [00:09:30] Eartha Kit's heyday.

She even kinda looks like a young [00:09:35] Eartha kit. And then I was talking to a friend of mine earlier today,

and of course, [00:09:40] yes, she looks like a cat

[00:09:42] Jay Aundrea: Her? Yes. So [00:09:45] she looks like a cat. And the thing is, uh, who is her? Uh, something Pierre. [00:09:50] Oh God, this guy is escaping me. Who? Her [00:09:55] boyfriend is?

[00:09:57] Bruce Anthony: Well her ex-husband was a man. Schumper,

[00:09:59] Jay Aundrea: [00:10:00] no, no, her Aaron. Aaron Pierre.

Uh, so yeah, the both of [00:10:05] them, if you see them together, they look like two very expensive cats. [00:10:10] Because they both look, they both look like cat. [00:10:15] Aaron Pierre, to me looks like a, a Puma.

[00:10:18] Bruce Anthony: Okay.

[00:10:19] Jay Aundrea: so [00:10:20] if you look at a Puma and then look at Aaron, I can't unsee it. But yeah, they'd look like two [00:10:25] very expensive cats.

That's probably where you're getting that from.

[00:10:28] Bruce Anthony: So [00:10:30] here's another thing. And I put Eartha kit was beautiful. So I'm not putting [00:10:35] Eartha Kit in that category, but I'm putting Tiana Taylor and Angel Angelina [00:10:40] Jolie in a similar category. And this is what I mean by this and, and ladies and gentlemen, I know [00:10:45] I just gave a whole segment about men [00:10:50] judging women's looks.

I'm not judging their

looks,

[00:10:52] Jay Aundrea: oh boy. Okay.

[00:10:53] Bruce Anthony: not judging their [00:10:55] looks.

[00:10:55] Jay Aundrea: Okay.

It sounds like that's what's about to

[00:10:59] Bruce Anthony: She's [00:11:00] beautiful. I, she's an attractive woman. I'm not judging her looks.

[00:11:04] Jay Aundrea: Yes.[00:11:05]

[00:11:06] Bruce Anthony: However, however, [00:11:10] this sex symbol thing is a all encompassing because [00:11:15] as pretty as she is, I don't see her being like, [00:11:20] to me, she is becoming the black female sex symbol, [00:11:25] kind of like Angelina Jolie was.

But like when you [00:11:30] compared with Brad Pitt left Jennifer Anderson for Angelina Jolie. I was like, why he do [00:11:35] that? And Jennifer Anderson is more my speed. But

[00:11:38] Jay Aundrea: Because you like,

Girl next [00:11:40] door look, and that's not who Angelina Jolie or

[00:11:43] Bruce Anthony: that's,

[00:11:44] Jay Aundrea: are. [00:11:45] They have a

very unique, yeah,

they have a very unique look. But [00:11:50] Tiana Taylor, talented body tea.

[00:11:53] Bruce Anthony: She's a sex symbol. [00:11:55] She, it, she, to me it, it's, I think [00:12:00] she is the female black sex symbol. I, I can't [00:12:05] think. Well, my girl Kelly Rowland, but they're different. They're different. Right?

[00:12:09] Jay Aundrea: [00:12:10] Yes. They're Kelly Rowland is Girl next door.

[00:12:13] Bruce Anthony: Oh. That's the reason why I love her so much. [00:12:15] Yeah. I'd like them. Girl. Next doors. Hey, look, if you got glasses and you short.[00:12:20]

And you look like the girl next door.

You got my heart because

I don't [00:12:25] want you to be the girl next door. I want you to look like the girl next door. But no, I thought I [00:12:30] think she can be, I think this is a great stepping stone. She's come a long way [00:12:35] from the Tyler Perry movie where she was yelling out by ran, and [00:12:40]

she's come a long way.

And I love to see this little [00:12:45] upset that, uh, my, my girl was in the movie and a lot [00:12:50] of her scenes got cut out.

Uh, yes, little, I [00:12:55] haven't

Who Gets the “Black Sex Symbol” Crown? 👀👑🔥

[00:12:55] Bruce Anthony: seen the movie yet, but just the fact that I won't see RG Regina Hall [00:13:00] disappoints me. But I'm happy for Tiana Taylor. I really, really am truly happy for who should be.[00:13:05]

Even though Denise's daughter did a good job [00:13:10] playing Catwoman, Tiana Taylor would be great as Catwoman. Why?

Because she already [00:13:15] looked, she already looked like a cat.

[00:13:17] Jay Aundrea: Yes.

Yeah.

[00:13:18] Bruce Anthony: Yeah.

[00:13:19] Jay Aundrea: Agreed.[00:13:20]

[00:13:20] Bruce Anthony: Uh, and the dude, Pierre, he, he looked different too. I don't know why he getting all [00:13:25] this publicity as you know, this sex symbol, but he is going to be the green [00:13:30] lanter, so that's pretty cool.

You know

[00:13:32] Jay Aundrea: I mean, you know, he's, he's [00:13:35] English, he is light skinned. He got light eyes. It's not hard math

[00:13:39] Bruce Anthony: Yeah. [00:13:40]

[00:13:40] Jay Aundrea: to see how he got put in into that position, but to me, he [00:13:45] looks like a, a large cat,

and I can't unsee that. [00:13:50] And so that's, that's where I'm at with that.

[00:13:52] Bruce Anthony: he ain't no bla Yeah, [00:13:55] they attractive, but he ain't no Blair Underwood. That's all I'm gonna say

[00:13:57] Jay Aundrea: Well, Blair Underwood, again, is a class [00:14:00] by himself.

Like that's, yeah, he's in a class by himself.

[00:14:04] Bruce Anthony: [00:14:05] Ah. Alright. Speaking on being in a class by [00:14:10] yourself, we're gonna talk about white people. [00:14:15] In white supremacy and that privilege. [00:14:20] Next.

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[00:14:28] Bruce Anthony: [00:14:25] Okay. Jay, you sent [00:14:30] me something interesting and, and, and I was like, huh, [00:14:35] this is the second segment because I know you would have thoughts on it. So, you sent me a video this morning. [00:14:40] Actually,

[00:14:40] Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

[00:14:41] Bruce Anthony: in the video, this, uh, white woman is talking [00:14:45] about basically what's happened with Renee, Nicole [00:14:50] Good. Who was the woman that was shot in Minneapolis by the ice, uh, agent [00:14:55] that they are, they, the DOJ and the FBI have already said they're not gonna investigate the shooting.[00:15:00]

So. There's not gonna be any resolution to that under this administration. But[00:15:05]

in that video, the woman said, yes, this is what happens when [00:15:10] white people go against white supremacy.

When Allyship Costs You Whiteness ⚖️🩸🚨

[00:15:14] Bruce Anthony: You [00:15:15] lose the privilege of being white and harm can come to [00:15:20] you in the process.

This is something that's happened. I know [00:15:25] over throughout history here in the United States,

and [00:15:30] yes, we are talking about white supremacy and my sister's gonna give her thoughts about this [00:15:35] particular video, but this isn't a segment of of [00:15:40] us bashing white people.

I'm actually going to give. White people who [00:15:45] have sacrificed their white privilege in combat of white [00:15:50] supremacy, their flowers in this segment, because there's a lot of y'all out there. A [00:15:55] lot of my friends are out there and they're down for the cause, even sometimes stronger than me. And [00:16:00] I'd be like, damn, you ain't got to be like, you could take some days off.

You ain't got to do this every moment of [00:16:05] every day. It's gonna be overwhelming, but I'm glad that you in it and [00:16:10] recognize it. But you said you had thoughts and I'm curious to hear what your thoughts [00:16:15] are.

What Real Allyship Actually Requires 🛑🤝💥

[00:16:15] Jay Aundrea: yeah. I mean, I think she's absolutely right that, [00:16:20] by, by truly being an ally, [00:16:25] right, which is. Uh, putting your body on the line, right? And what I mean by [00:16:30] that is stepping in between the oppressor and the [00:16:35] oppressed, right? Actually filling that gap with yourself [00:16:40] and saying, no. Right? You [00:16:45] do lose your, the benefits of your proximity [00:16:50] to whiteness and to white supremacy.

Like you lose the benefit of your whiteness by, [00:16:55] by putting yourself in that position and you [00:17:00] do open yourself up to a violence that you would not normally [00:17:05] ever like, come across, like you would normally [00:17:10] never even, it wouldn't even be on your radar. It's part of the reason why [00:17:15] the civil rights movement was so impactful is because it, [00:17:20] it televised the revolution, right? It put. This kind of [00:17:25] violence that black people were experiencing, particularly [00:17:30] state sanctioned violence at the hands of police, but also [00:17:35] domestic terror groups like the KKK, it put that violence that they were [00:17:40] experiencing right into the homes of white people into their [00:17:45] living room. And so a violence that you would [00:17:50] never, ever encounter as a white person in this country, by [00:17:55] filling up that gap between the oppressed and the oppressor, you do open [00:18:00] yourself up to that violence by way of, [00:18:05] uh, losing your proximity to white privilege.

And I think [00:18:10] that it's, one, it's what [00:18:15] happened, uh, in Minneapolis should have never happened. And the fact that [00:18:20] it's not gonna be investigated. Is not surprising. [00:18:25] And you never want people who are [00:18:30] exercising their, she wasn't even protesting, but people who are [00:18:35] exercising their right to protest or [00:18:40] to film agents or to just [00:18:45] be in proximity of these, and I, I'm using the term agents very loosely.

They, [00:18:50] these are people, uh, uh, somebody, uh, had a sign that was very true. [00:18:55] It's too lazy to be soldiers, too dumb to be cops and that, so they became ice [00:19:00] quote unquote agents and they cosplay as law enforcement. [00:19:05] But to, to, you [00:19:10] should never have to deal with violence by exercising your constitutional rights, [00:19:15] especially for protest. And so. [00:19:20] Knowing that real allyship puts you [00:19:25] closer to blackness,

right? Or [00:19:30] otherness. That's a hard, that's a reason why you, you don't [00:19:35] find a, a lot of true allies because they [00:19:40] know that to stand in that place is to align [00:19:45] themselves with otherness, blackness, whatever they're standing up for, right? [00:19:50] And that makes them a target.

You see it also with [00:19:55] sexism, right? The idea of, oh, you're a simp, you're a beta male, just because [00:20:00] you're advocating for. Equity right [00:20:05] between the sexes just 'cause you're advocating that for women to [00:20:10] feel safe in public spaces or things like that, you, you get [00:20:15] attacked, you lose your proximity to masculinity in the eyes of [00:20:20] people who, benefit from a supremacist culture.

[00:20:25] So yeah, I think she's absolutely right and it is something that is [00:20:30] normal for us because we're always in a, a position to encounter that [00:20:35] kind of violence because we don't have, uh, proximity to white [00:20:40] supremacy. So this is par for the course for us. We assume [00:20:45] that we're going to be met with some sort of violence, but for, for white [00:20:50] people to say, I wanna be an ally and I really wanna [00:20:55] stand up and actually be. Impactful with my [00:21:00] activism is to know that you're giving up some of the [00:21:05] benefits of whiteness and you are opening yourself up to violence.[00:21:10]

[00:21:10] Bruce Anthony: Yeah. The [00:21:15] reason why. You always say that I'm too forgiving. I give too [00:21:20] much grace. But the reason why I give white [00:21:25] people some grace for not either acknowledging certain things [00:21:30] exactly when they should, or being slow [00:21:35] to be active

is because I [00:21:40] recognize as a male, male is the only privilege. I got two privileges, [00:21:45] I got two, I'm male and I'm pretty right.

[00:21:50] Like I got, those are the only two privileges that I

[00:21:52] Jay Aundrea: This gender, you're educated. You're in a [00:21:55] certain economic class. There are several privileges that you have,

[00:21:58] Bruce Anthony: I like the, I like the two that I named, [00:22:00] but

[00:22:00] Jay Aundrea: all right?

[00:22:01] Bruce Anthony: so I understand what it's like to be in privilege,[00:22:05]

the little privilege that I have.

I also understand how hard it is to get that [00:22:10] bad way up for a cause.

[00:22:12] Jay Aundrea: Yeah.

[00:22:13] Bruce Anthony: Right. Another privilege [00:22:15] I have is time. I have time. I have [00:22:20] time to donate that time for services for good.

Do [00:22:25] I? No. Why? Because I like the privilege of [00:22:30] having my time. So I understand

what it's like [00:22:35] not wanting to give up that privilege either consciously or [00:22:40] subconsciously. Like I, I get it.

I get it.

[00:22:42] Jay Aundrea: Yeah.

[00:22:43] Bruce Anthony: But I said I was gonna give white [00:22:45] people their flowers in this segment because yes, that person that was a [00:22:50] ice agent, that that shot that woman, he was definitely white.

And don't get me wrong, all the [00:22:55] domestic terror in this country, white people. From the [00:23:00] beginning of the foundation of this country. White people, however, [00:23:05] there have been several, several white [00:23:10] allies to causes that combat white supremacy. So white people have a [00:23:15] long documented history of being killed in the US while they have [00:23:20] actively joined struggles against slavery.

Jim Crow and [00:23:25] Contemporary White Nationalism, these deaths are a through line from the [00:23:30] abolitionist era to the Freedom Summer to Charlottesville, showing that [00:23:35] challenging white supremacy has never been risk free for anyone who [00:23:40] seriously opposes it. We going all the way back to Elijah Parish Lovejoy. [00:23:45] Who was

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[00:23:45] Bruce Anthony: that?

Y'all are like Bruce. Who was that? He was a white Presbyterian minister and [00:23:50] abolitionist. Editor, he was murdered in 1837 by [00:23:55] pro-slavery mob in Alton, Illinois, while defending his anti-slavery [00:24:00] printing press. He was shot five times as the mob tried to [00:24:05] burn the warehouse and destroy his press. Love Joyce Killing was widely described [00:24:10] as the, as a martyrdom for the abolitionist cause, and sparked national outrage, [00:24:15] especially among northern anti-slavery activists.

So [00:24:20] when you give up your proximity to whiteness and [00:24:25] white supremacy

[00:24:25] Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

[00:24:27] Bruce Anthony: and you give your life to it, [00:24:30] nine times outta 10, that spark, it's not a. [00:24:35] Loss of life for no reason. There have been many of [00:24:40] black civil right leaders, black abolitionists, that have lost their lives and hasn't done a [00:24:45] thing to move the movement further aside, [00:24:50] galvanize the people who are already moving in that movement,

right?

But

[00:24:54] Jay Aundrea: right.[00:24:55]

[00:24:55] Bruce Anthony: when you're, when a life is lost, [00:25:00] combating some type of oppression, and it's coming from a person that would [00:25:05] typically be on the other side of that oppression,

the other people that look [00:25:10] like that person and believe like that person start to be like, wait a minute, hold up.

[00:25:14] Jay Aundrea: Yeah.[00:25:15]

[00:25:15] Bruce Anthony: I understand y'all was killing them, but now you killing us.

What the hell is going on?

[00:25:19] Jay Aundrea: [00:25:20] Yeah.

[00:25:20] Bruce Anthony: So that's just, you know, it starts with Elijah Lovejoy. [00:25:25] But let's not forget about the three civil rights workers, James Cheney. [00:25:30] Andrew Goodman and Michael er, I think that's how you say his [00:25:35] name,

sch Weer.

Y'all will know them from a movie called [00:25:40] Mississippi Burning, starring Gene Hackman, great movie, but the three of them [00:25:45] were abducted and murdered by the KKK with help from the deputy sheriff [00:25:50] and Mississippi while working on black voter registration, [00:25:55] and then was later in investigated in a burning of a black church.

Their bodies were found [00:26:00] weeks later, and a damn the case became one of the most famous examples [00:26:05] of white civil rights workers killed by confronting Jim Crow and white supremacy in the [00:26:10] deep south. Do you know what happened Because of this, [00:26:15] the president, Lyndon Bayes Johnson. Forced the [00:26:20] FBI and the DOJ to investigate this and immediately [00:26:25] labeled the Ku Klux Klan as a domestic terrorist, started an investigation.

They were the [00:26:30] first group that was, uh, charged, not charged, but [00:26:35] Cointel Pro was a program to attack Dec Domestic Terrorism. It was created, [00:26:40] they attacked the Kku Klutz Klan bankrupt, the Kku Klutz Klan, to the point where you barely see [00:26:45] any Kku Klux Klan members. All

because, couldn't, couldn't even, couldn't [00:26:50] afford the hoods.

All because, not because James Cheney was killed, who was the black [00:26:55] man, but the two young white men, Andrew Goman and Michael [00:27:00] Schwimmer, white men were killed. And White America [00:27:05] said, wait a minute.

Hold up. This can't be life. [00:27:10] This can't be real.

Right? And let's not forget about Heather Hare. [00:27:15]

Think that's how you say hire.

Uh, she was the white paralegal and anti-racist [00:27:20] activist who was killed in Charlottesville. Y'all remember that? That was just a few years ago. I mean, [00:27:25] it's a little bit more than a few years ago. It was nine years ago. But y'all remember that [00:27:30] they will not replace us in Charlottesville and the guy running her [00:27:35] over, right?

That's that. Along with George Floyd [00:27:40] sparked everybody putting a little black, uh, picture on [00:27:45] their social media posts. So that's just a few of, [00:27:50] there's, there's more, but I kind of wanted to highlight them. There's way more, there's so many [00:27:55] people that helped. There were white people that helped Harriet Tubman.

There were more people that [00:28:00] marched along, uh, Martin Luther King. There were, there's been [00:28:05] a myriad of white people who have given up their white [00:28:10] privilege to combat white supremacy, and that's really the only way that you can [00:28:15] combat a oppressive group, is for the people [00:28:20] in that group to say, this isn't right.

Look, black people gonna always fight white [00:28:25] supremacy always, but guess

what it, we don't have a choice. Guess what? It's not our [00:28:30] problem. It's not our problem. That white people, white [00:28:35] people feeding into white supremacy, Stephen Miller, Donald Trump, the whole Trump [00:28:40] administration, Pete Hegseth, all these people,

[00:28:42] Jay Aundrea: All everybody, all of [00:28:45] them.

[00:28:45] Bruce Anthony: not everybody,

but a lot of

[00:28:47] Jay Aundrea: if, I'm sorry. If you're in [00:28:50]

the Trump administration as a choice. [00:28:55] If you've made a choice to be maga, I'm going to [00:29:00] safely assume

[00:29:01] Bruce Anthony: Yeah.

[00:29:01] Jay Aundrea: that you are a white supremacist or a white nationalist

[00:29:04] Bruce Anthony: Yeah. [00:29:05] Yeah, yeah.

[00:29:06] Jay Aundrea: period.

[00:29:07] Bruce Anthony: it, yeah.

[00:29:08] Jay Aundrea: Even if you are [00:29:10] black, even

if you are Latino. Even if you are Asian, I [00:29:15] do not care.

Even if you are a woman, even if you are queer.

If you [00:29:20] are choosing to align yourself with people [00:29:25] who are actively pushing white nationalism and white supremacy, I'm gonna [00:29:30] safely assume and be, [00:29:35] uh, 99.9999999% correct [00:29:40] in my assumption that you too are a white nationalist and a white [00:29:45] supremacist.

[00:29:45] Bruce Anthony: Yeah. But the larger point that [00:29:50] we're trying to make is this was a travesty. That what To re Renee, Nicole. Good.[00:29:55]

[00:29:55] Jay Aundrea: in

every sense of the word, the fact that it is not going to be investigated, it [00:30:00] is just compounding the tragedy. The fact that ice agents [00:30:05] in Minneapolis are actually telling people, and it's on video, [00:30:10] you guys didn't learn from what just happened and learn what is, [00:30:15] is usually the response they get.

What did I learn that I can't be in [00:30:20] proximity of ice quote agents and, uh, without risking [00:30:25] my life? That was what, that was the le that's the lesson. [00:30:30] Okay.

[00:30:32] Bruce Anthony: We gonna talk, we gonna talk more about what I [00:30:35] feel about that on the after hours that we gonna film later on. So I'm gonna have to make a note that that's gonna [00:30:40] be one of the topics y'all need to check out the after hours. 'cause I done re I done reprogram that [00:30:45] and, and we getting serious. We need to talk about some stuff that, uh, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna [00:30:50] give my true thoughts of, of, of ice and all that stuff, but I made this comment.[00:30:55]

On my show on Tuesday that this tragedy, [00:31:00] unfortunately wasn't a necessity, and [00:31:05] it shows, it, it, it was almost like, well, as soon as you send me the video, I [00:31:10] said, I knew, I know exactly where I want to take my thoughts on this.

And my [00:31:15] thoughts were,

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[00:31:15] Bruce Anthony: yes, the only way to combat white supremacy is giving up the white [00:31:20] privilege.

Completely agree with the woman, but also giving up that white privilege means [00:31:25] most of the time that you've given up your life.

And unfortunately, that's the [00:31:30] only way that there's ever been a civil rights [00:31:35] progress in this country. Somebody got to lose their life. It's somebody that [00:31:40] looks like the majority has to lose their [00:31:45] life because being, seeing lynchings.[00:31:50]

The Emmett Till Lynching didn't that freaked out Black America. It didn't really [00:31:55] freak out. White America.

[00:31:56] Jay Aundrea: No. 'cause if you remember lynchings, they have [00:32:00] picnics,

they take pieces of the body. They invite children. They,

they, [00:32:05]

[00:32:05] Bruce Anthony: which

[00:32:06] Jay Aundrea: that's not,

[00:32:07] Bruce Anthony: by the way, they [00:32:10] all, I'm we're talking about white supremacists here always talking about black people being animals. [00:32:15] That's some, an animalistic barbaric. Type [00:32:20] of actions that the, and this wasn't that long ago, ladies, gentlemen, everybody was like, that was so long ago. It's [00:32:25] my parents' generation.

It's it, my parents were alive when that stuff was happening. It, it,[00:32:30]

Michael Jackson and the Jackson Five was a thing. Now, 60 years ago, [00:32:35] 60 years ago, do you might be a really long time ago, but [00:32:40] you know, somebody who is 60, 70 years old, that's important to you, that you love [00:32:45] and they were alive during that time.

So you are going to look back when [00:32:50] you're 70 years old and, and maybe your seminal moment was [00:32:55] September 11th, or maybe it, it will be, uh, the [00:33:00] pandemic, right? And you're gonna tell somebody about that time and they'd be like, that was so long ago. [00:33:05] But

[00:33:05] Jay Aundrea: Right?

[00:33:06] Bruce Anthony: things were impactful. You [00:33:10] still ex exhibit, you still like experienced them.

This wasn't that long ago that they was [00:33:15] just doing that. Right. And that was not furthering along the civil [00:33:20] rights movement. The, the, the beating in Birmingham, that helped a little bit. Right. [00:33:25] But it was the killing of the white kids down in Mississippi. [00:33:30] That's what did it. And unfortunately, Renee, Nicole [00:33:35] Good was assassinated

[00:33:38] Jay Aundrea: Yes.

[00:33:39] Bruce Anthony: [00:33:40] and that woke up a lot of people and they're like, wait a minute now [00:33:45] she's kind of like me.

And now they're not going to investigate. [00:33:50] They're the, the MAGA is digging their own shovel [00:33:55] consistently. I always say, if they were smart, you take a little bit at a time [00:34:00] so people don't notice

[00:34:01] Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

But they're incredibly [00:34:05] ambitious. Uh, Trump is on a tight timeline, right? [00:34:10] He has to make himself king in the next. [00:34:15] You know, three years. So he, he's on a tight timeline, so they gotta move [00:34:20] quickly with this, uh, fascist state that they're building.

[00:34:24] Bruce Anthony: Yeah, [00:34:25] they're building it. What, what are your final [00:34:30] Thoughts? because it does, if pe if white people, and we have a lot of white fans,

I [00:34:35] know sometimes they gotta be like, it's not my fault. And once again, we're not talking directly to you. [00:34:40] Right. Because if you listen to the show then you are an ally.

[00:34:45] But it does, sometimes when I do listen back to the shows, be like, damn, [00:34:50] kind of seem like we attacking white folks and that's not how we truly feel. I [00:34:55] wanted to give white folks white allies, their flowers. And like I said, I got a lot of friends that [00:35:00] I'm just like, yo, you could take Sunday off. Like, like.

Go [00:35:05] ahead and take a day off. So like, what do you wanna say to [00:35:10] people out there that are like, I don't know, that are just like, [00:35:15] man, they always attacking white people. What do you wanna say to those white [00:35:20] people and, and everybody right now, more specifically about [00:35:25] relinquishing that privilege to further along [00:35:30] human decency?

[00:35:31] Jay Aundrea: Yeah. First, [00:35:35] I think when we're talking

[00:35:39] Bruce Anthony: Yes.

[00:35:39] Jay Aundrea: [00:35:40] injustice and white supremacy, [00:35:45] if you get defensive, that's some questions you need to ask yourself. That's number one.[00:35:50]

[00:35:50] Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.

[00:35:51] Jay Aundrea: Kind of goes back to that thing of them not wanting to teach slavery in [00:35:55] schools. Well, why can't white students align with white abolitionists?

Why would [00:36:00] they, why do they have to feel bad about slavery? They can just say, that's something that I [00:36:05] never wanna repeat.

[00:36:06] Bruce Anthony: Right.

[00:36:07] Jay Aundrea: Right. So if you, if you get [00:36:10] defensive, then the, you have some questions to ask yourself, but [00:36:15] true change comes in uncomfortable spaces.

[00:36:19] Bruce Anthony: [00:36:20] Yeah.

[00:36:21] Jay Aundrea: True change, and this is an [00:36:25] unfortunate fact, usually is born out of violence [00:36:30] spaces. You do have to put your body on the line [00:36:35] to infect, to affect change. And that's just the reality of, of where [00:36:40] we are as a country and as people, as human beings. That is [00:36:45] what the masses require. They require that little bit of [00:36:50] blood before they get invested. [00:36:55] Because otherwise it's just not real to them or it's something that they can ignore, but like an [00:37:00] impending peril, right? Of like, well, will will ice come to my [00:37:05] city next? And if I'm just trying to get home from work and they [00:37:10] feel like I'm following them, will I get shot? You know, like that, [00:37:15] that is, yeah. It's a possibility. Yes. And, and you see that [00:37:20] and now it's a reality. And guess what? Nobody is going to investigate your murder. [00:37:25] But, that, [00:37:30] that is how we affect change is by [00:37:35] putting our bodies, our lives on the line. [00:37:40] Because everybody wants that. I don't even know if I'm using [00:37:45] this euphemism right, but that pound of flesh, right. Like they need it. [00:37:50] Before they really get invested. And that's just the reality. And it's sad, it's [00:37:55] unfortunate.

It should be that you can just speak up and say, Hey, I, [00:38:00] uh, I'm feeling marginalized by this policy. Can we revise it? Oh, sorry, [00:38:05] we didn't even notice that. Uh, we were marginalizing you. Let's go to the back to the drawing board. That's just [00:38:10] not the way things are. So yeah, it's [00:38:15] dangerous. Welcome to like real [00:38:20] America, the America that everybody's been telling you about.

That's dangerous. Welcome to [00:38:25] that for if you're here for the first time. It is, it is [00:38:30] dangerous to exist in the world without the protection of [00:38:35] whiteness.

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[00:38:43] Bruce Anthony: [00:38:40] Okay, Jay, let's [00:38:45] lighten the mood.

[00:38:46] Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

[00:38:47] Bruce Anthony: Do a, I don't know, a top 10 list. [00:38:50] I do know what it is, a top 10 list, but I don't think it's gonna be a competition. Uh, but it might [00:38:55] be, it might be a heated conversation.

[00:38:57] Jay Aundrea: Right.

[00:38:58] Bruce Anthony: This top 10 [00:39:00] list is the top 10 movies that are black movies that [00:39:05] everybody must see, right? That are not just exclusively just for black people, [00:39:10] but if black people that are of a certain age [00:39:15] adults have not seen these movies, we could strip away their [00:39:20] black card.

[00:39:20] Jay Aundrea: and we mean old ass adults. Like I, you gotta, you gotta be [00:39:25] 35 and up. Like

[00:39:26] Bruce Anthony: no. You

could be 21. You could be 21 because you got some [00:39:30] siblings. Some if, if they haven't seen it. It's been a [00:39:35] knock on those people in their family and around them. [00:39:40] Because there's no reason why you should not have seen these [00:39:45] top 10 movies. Now we got 50 to choose from and I put 'em into different categories.[00:39:50]

So we going to pull out the best from each category and then make our [00:39:55] top 10 lists from that. So for our people who are not black, these are [00:40:00] great movies to watch, to learn about the true black [00:40:05] experience.

'cause these were black movies done by black people, [00:40:10] black stuff done by non-black people.

[00:40:12] Jay Aundrea: Okay.

Yes.

[00:40:14] Bruce Anthony: Alright, so [00:40:15] let's start with the

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[00:40:15] Bruce Anthony: core classics, right?

[00:40:18] Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

[00:40:19] Bruce Anthony: Core classics. [00:40:20] Malcolm X Do the Right Thing. Boys in the Hood, [00:40:25] menace to Society. Cooley High, A Raisin in the [00:40:30] Sun, the Curly, the mm, the curly, the Color. Purple Ease By You [00:40:35] Daughters of the Dust. Hoop dreams. [00:40:40] Now

[00:40:40] Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

[00:40:42] Bruce Anthony: outta those movies, which [00:40:45] are, are you automatically pulling with us?

Is definitely in the top 10.

[00:40:49] Jay Aundrea: Menace to [00:40:50] society. And you might be

a little surprised, you might be a little. [00:40:55] surprised

[00:40:55] Bruce Anthony: Very surprised.

[00:40:57] Jay Aundrea: I would pick menace to society, especially because [00:41:00] boys in the Hood is in there.

[00:41:01] Bruce Anthony: Yeah.

[00:41:02] Jay Aundrea: Here's why I [00:41:05] felt menace to society was more true to life [00:41:10] than boys in the hood, in that you do not get a happy [00:41:15] ending.

[00:41:15] Bruce Anthony: Mm.

[00:41:16] Jay Aundrea: Trey ends up going off to college and I mean, we [00:41:20] expected Doughboy not to make it.

And, and, and Ricky stopped to [00:41:25] pee while they was being

chased by the

[00:41:29] Bruce Anthony: scores.[00:41:30]

[00:41:31] Jay Aundrea: Okay. But it's still like [00:41:35] you kind of, there's certain things you kind of expected. I, I, to me, it felt like [00:41:40] the story of Kane.

[00:41:44] Bruce Anthony: Yeah. [00:41:45] Came.

[00:41:45] Jay Aundrea: Cain administer society. The fact that, [00:41:50] you know, first of all, hi, the situation in which he grew up, [00:41:55] right? Not raised by his parents, he was raised by his grandparents. They were overly [00:42:00] strict and, and very religious. And soon as he got involved in [00:42:05] anything illegal, they kicked him out with no thought of like where he would go, right? [00:42:10] Like that is that, but Trey went to his daddy house when he started [00:42:15] acting up,

[00:42:15] Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.

[00:42:16] Jay Aundrea: you know what I'm saying? Because he had a daddy to go to.

[00:42:19] Bruce Anthony: Right, [00:42:20] right. Okay.

[00:42:22] Jay Aundrea: The, the element that came was [00:42:25] around him. He, he didn't even really want [00:42:30] better for himself. Like he really wasn't even on that type of time. Like Trey [00:42:35] wanted to go to college, wanted to, you know. It really felt like [00:42:40] Kane really wasn't even on that type of time. And that's the kind of apathy [00:42:45] that I think you really do find of [00:42:50] like, this is my situation.

This is where I'm in. Okay, [00:42:55] this is the, I'm not gonna think I, outside of the scope of what I'm [00:43:00] in,

I

[00:43:00] Bruce Anthony: Okay.

[00:43:01] Jay Aundrea: Kane's story was much more realistic than Treys.[00:43:05]

[00:43:05] Bruce Anthony: Okay. My, the reason why I got this dumbfounded look on my [00:43:10] face is because from those movies, you immediately went to [00:43:15] CE to Society before Malcolm X, before do the right thing. [00:43:20] Before Cooley High and Coach Cheese, before the color purple, before [00:43:25] ease by you. You went to Menace to Society. And I feel like you [00:43:30] missed a movie that gave you everything in Menace to [00:43:35] society, but better.

And that's Hoop Dreams, [00:43:40] which is a documentary. It's not sensationalized, it's a [00:43:45] true story of two families in the inner city of [00:43:50] Chicago trying to make their way out.

[00:43:54] Jay Aundrea: Yeah. But [00:43:55] again, I'm talking about the, the point is we supposed to [00:44:00] pick films that represent the, the black experience, right?

And, and part of [00:44:05] that is the apathy that comes with [00:44:10] certain circumstances.

Like, you're, you, you want [00:44:15] that growth story. And I'm telling you that it's usually not [00:44:20] there. Like you're in Hoop Dreams, it's somebody trying to get out

[00:44:24] Bruce Anthony: Yes. [00:44:25]

[00:44:25] Jay Aundrea: High, they're trying to get out.

Like that's not.

[00:44:28] Bruce Anthony: Okay.

I get what you're saying.

[00:44:29] Jay Aundrea: [00:44:30] was on. Like, you have to

understand that there's,

[00:44:32] Bruce Anthony: destroyed the will [00:44:35] to better your life.

[00:44:36] Jay Aundrea: and that's also a real story that, [00:44:40] that is present in our community.

[00:44:43] Bruce Anthony: Alright. Okay. You picked [00:44:45] that movie. You gonna pick anyone else out of this Bunch Minutes to Society? Ladies and gentlemen, that's the, that's the [00:44:50] movie my sister picked. It's a great movie. You got me talking Bad about Miss Society and I think it's a [00:44:55] great movie.

[00:44:55] Jay Aundrea: Yeah.

[00:44:56] Bruce Anthony: You got any other movie you wanna pick outta there?[00:45:00]

[00:45:01] Jay Aundrea: I'm, I'm leaning towards Daughters of the [00:45:05] Dust. Uh, I don't know if you've seen it. It's, it's, uh, a

really great, [00:45:10] independent film. But I [00:45:15] wanna see what else is, what else [00:45:20] is on the

[00:45:20] Bruce Anthony: You don't have to pick just one movie outta this bunch 'cause I'm picking Malcolm [00:45:25] X. Do the right thing. And, uh, hoop Dreams

[00:45:28] Jay Aundrea: That, [00:45:30] but I got, I got 10 films that people have to watch [00:45:35] to understand the black experience.

[00:45:38] Bruce Anthony: Alright, those are the core classics, ladies [00:45:40] and gentlemen.

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[00:45:40] Bruce Anthony: Let's move down to Modern Essentials. So we got Moonlight. [00:45:45] Get out 12 Years A Slave, Selma Black Panther. Hidden [00:45:50] Figures. Straight Outta Compton. Spider-Man into the Spider Verse. [00:45:55] Loving Basketball and Fruitville Station. [00:46:00] I automatically know where you're going with this.

I feel like there's a theme in every, [00:46:05] in every

[00:46:05] Jay Aundrea: Oh,

[00:46:05] Bruce Anthony: going pick

[00:46:06] Jay Aundrea: tell me which ones you think I'm gonna pick.

[00:46:08] Bruce Anthony: Fruitville Station.[00:46:10]

[00:46:10] Jay Aundrea: No,

[00:46:11] Bruce Anthony: You're

not, okay.

[00:46:12] Jay Aundrea: not, on my list. No.

[00:46:14] Bruce Anthony: Which, which one [00:46:15] are you picking out of this bunch?

[00:46:16] Jay Aundrea: Moonlight and Hidden Figures.

[00:46:18] Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.[00:46:20]

[00:46:20] Jay Aundrea: I think Moonlight is a great [00:46:25] story of the, [00:46:30] complications of being black and queer.

[00:46:34] Bruce Anthony: [00:46:35] Mm-hmm. Yeah.

[00:46:35] Jay Aundrea: And I think Hidden Figures is important because [00:46:40] you need to, I think a lot of people don't [00:46:45] understand how seminal black people were in the [00:46:50] advancement of a lot of things in this country,

[00:46:52] Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.

[00:46:54] Jay Aundrea: something you [00:46:55] wouldn't think of like aerospace. That we were there crunching the [00:47:00] numbers, we were there inventing math. Like you need to know that we [00:47:05] are an integral part of this country, [00:47:10] not just 'cause of the Underground Railroad.

[00:47:12] Bruce Anthony: Right. Yeah,

[00:47:14] Jay Aundrea: [00:47:15] Yeah.

[00:47:15] Bruce Anthony: I agree with you. I would just add Selma [00:47:20] and, and there's a, there's a theme with me as well with Malcolm X and [00:47:25] Selma history. History of the struggle will tell you [00:47:30] why we are still fighting.

[00:47:33] Jay Aundrea: Yeah.

[00:47:34] Bruce Anthony: So [00:47:35] that's the only thing, uh, I think Fruitville Station has a, is a lot [00:47:40] of parallels with menace to society

[00:47:43] Jay Aundrea: Yeah,

it's [00:47:45] just,

[00:47:45] Bruce Anthony: a true story.

[00:47:46] Jay Aundrea: yes. So I'm [00:47:50] probably going to not pick anything that's like [00:47:55] true story or historically accurate because if you, or like [00:48:00] historical, uh, you know, drama because, you know, [00:48:05] pick up a book like, honestly,

you don't know about

[00:48:08] Bruce Anthony: people.

[00:48:08] Jay Aundrea: you don't know about [00:48:10] Malcolm X. You don't

[00:48:10] Bruce Anthony: Well,

you gotta understand, hold on. There are different type of learners, [00:48:15] right? Like some people learn by reading. Some people learn are visual learners [00:48:20] so people can read certain things and not register and then see it and it [00:48:25] bring, creates a whole new thing. George Floyd is a prime example.

A lot of people read that article and was like, oh, that's sad. [00:48:30] Then they saw it and it was like, wait a minute. So that's the reason why I'm like, well, I picked movies and not [00:48:35] books also because I've seen a lot more movies than I read books. So,

alright, those are your [00:48:40] picks. move to comedy and romance.

'cause it ain't all just suffering and [00:48:45] pain.

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[00:48:45] Jay Aundrea: Yes.

[00:48:46] Bruce Anthony: So in the comedy and romance we got coming to America [00:48:50] Friday House Party, love Jones. Waiting to exhale [00:48:55] Barbershop, the best man coming to America, brown Sugar and [00:49:00] Harlem Nights. Out of those movies, what would make the top [00:49:05] 10 of movies that you need to see?

[00:49:08] Jay Aundrea: [00:49:10] Love Jones.

[00:49:13] Bruce Anthony: Okay.

[00:49:14] Jay Aundrea: Yeah,[00:49:15]

Love Jones for sure, because [00:49:20] it was such a good representation of the [00:49:25] complexity of Black love and just [00:49:30] how, beautiful that it, it can be. [00:49:35] It was just a really great, great movie. [00:49:40] You got a, a glimpse into different kinds [00:49:45] of black relationships, a marriage, a, a player, uh, two people [00:49:50] that to say they're just kicking it, but are falling in love and really trying [00:49:55] not to a bad relationship with an ex.

Uh, you [00:50:00] love it, like you get glimpses into different kinds of relationships [00:50:05] and just Yeah, just the, the beauty of black [00:50:10] love, I would definitely put that on there.

[00:50:12] Bruce Anthony: Alright, I dig. Love Jones. But [00:50:15] this is comedy and romance.

And the first thing I'm gonna say [00:50:20] is coming to America. Not coming to America.

[00:50:24] Jay Aundrea: The [00:50:25] numeral two, so

[00:50:25] Bruce Anthony: Yeah. not the sequel.

coming to America. That's a [00:50:30] movie that everybody black, non-black [00:50:35] needs to see. Now does it tell you a lot about the black experience? A little bit. A [00:50:40] little bit.

No, it does a little bit. You see a lot of people in Queens, you see the black [00:50:45] experience in Queen, the black awareness rally and all that stuff. That's where I'm gonna be, shit. [00:50:50] But that's, that, that's what I would pick. And then Brown [00:50:55] Sugar. I don't think brown sugar gets, its just due. 'cause it's also talking [00:51:00] about black love.

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[00:51:01] Bruce Anthony: It's talking about black love, romance and, and [00:51:05] ex and aspiring, like you said. The, [00:51:10] um, analogy with Ministry Society. Society is beating this person down where they don't want to see better for [00:51:15] themselves.

And brown sugar is the opposite. It is. I'm trying [00:51:20] to get out, I have this passion. I know I can do this.

I [00:51:25] just need a chance. I just need a shot and I'm gonna do whatever I gotta do to [00:51:30] get to that point. And so, uh, yes. And then Harlem Nights, right? I'm [00:51:35] always gonna choose a lot from comedy.

[00:51:36] Jay Aundrea: Yeah,

[00:51:37] Bruce Anthony: 'cause that's, that's just what I like. [00:51:40] Alright.

[00:51:40] Jay Aundrea: I think, let me think. So [00:51:45] when I just think of quintessential black comedy [00:51:50] that you just have to see because it gives you an ins, [00:51:55] I don't know why. And this is probably, you're probably like, [00:52:00] why is this, dang, what is that movie? Hold on.[00:52:05]

[00:52:05] Bruce Anthony: You would need to know the movie first before

[00:52:07] Jay Aundrea: I, I would, I would need to, [00:52:10] I would, that's, that's incredibly important.

Soul Men. I [00:52:15] don't know why

[00:52:16] Bruce Anthony: that does not tell you about no black experience. That's

[00:52:19] Jay Aundrea: it doesn't [00:52:20] tell you about it. It just is about. So [00:52:25] the reason why I think soul men is honestly just that one scene [00:52:30] in Samuel Jackson's apartment,

like if you wanna know [00:52:35] about comedic black interaction, [00:52:40] like if you wanna, if you see us talking to each other, these two people [00:52:45] actually care about each other.

[00:52:47] Bruce Anthony: Yeah, I.

[00:52:48] Jay Aundrea: And so when you [00:52:50] see us talk to each other like that, IRL and you're just like, [00:52:55] oh my God, they must be No, no, no. You don't understand. We actually [00:53:00] like each other,

[00:53:01] Bruce Anthony: Love each other. Yeah.

[00:53:02] Jay Aundrea: love each other, work together for years, [00:53:05] wanna work together again, but this is how we communicate

[00:53:09] Bruce Anthony: [00:53:10] Mm-hmm.

[00:53:10] Jay Aundrea: this is that gives you a good glimpse into how we communicate.

I don't know why that popped in my head, [00:53:15] but it just did

[00:53:16] Bruce Anthony: I feel like barbershop does that as well,

but Okay. [00:53:20] Okay.

[00:53:20] Jay Aundrea: kind of a. Cooney way.

[00:53:24] Bruce Anthony: Oh, [00:53:25] mm. Yeah. Yep. You can say that. Yep. That's, I, I, I won't argue that. Alright,[00:53:30]

next category. Biopics or movie driven? I guess Malcolm X could have been [00:53:35] put in here, but No, Malcolm X is too important. I had to put it in the core.

[00:53:38] Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.

[00:53:39] Bruce Anthony: So [00:53:40] biopics

[00:53:40] Jay Aundrea: driven.

[00:53:41] Bruce Anthony: and, well biopics and music driven.

[00:53:44] Jay Aundrea: Oh, you [00:53:45] said movie driven. I was just

[00:53:47] Bruce Anthony: driven. Yeah, my bad. You know, sometimes I mess up with [00:53:50] players.

Mess up with words too. Okay, we got Ray.

What's Love got to do with it? [00:53:55] Purple Rain, the five Heartbeats and Dream Girls. [00:54:00] What those five movies are a must for people to go [00:54:05] see?

[00:54:05] Jay Aundrea: It's not on the list.

[00:54:08] Bruce Anthony: Okay, [00:54:10] what is it then?

[00:54:11] Jay Aundrea: The Jackson's American Dream.

[00:54:12] Bruce Anthony: Okay, so the Jackson's [00:54:15] American Dream is, and I didn't put it on the list because the five [00:54:20] heartbeats more important than the Jackson's American dream.

[00:54:23] Jay Aundrea: I don't think so,

and [00:54:25] I,

said I wasn't gonna do anything that's like, based on real life or [00:54:30] like a biopic or something

like

that.

[00:54:31] Bruce Anthony: what you said. So you're contradicting yourself.

[00:54:33] Jay Aundrea: I am, [00:54:35] sometimes you contradict yourself because in this [00:54:40] instance, one music driven, I'm gonna put the whiz on [00:54:45] there. Like you have to see that, just

to see the, yes, you [00:54:50] do, to see the breath and width of like black artistry, dance, [00:54:55] acting, singing, uh, set design choreography, [00:55:00] all of the things like you gotta see The Wiz. But [00:55:05] Jackson's American Dream, like just, if you want a story [00:55:10] of the, what it takes to be black and successful in [00:55:15] this country, like the true sacrifices you have to make. [00:55:20] You gotta watch Jackson's American dream.

[00:55:23] Bruce Anthony: I still think [00:55:25] five heartbeats is above Jackson American Dream. I, I, I, I, I feel like, 'cause that's my [00:55:30] pick from this list. It's the five heartbeats.

[00:55:33] Jay Aundrea: to me, they didn't sacrifice [00:55:35] anything

[00:55:35] Bruce Anthony: What are you talking about? They were performing in the Jim Crow South. You don't remember when they got pulled over by the [00:55:40] cops?

[00:55:40] Jay Aundrea: Yeah, they had, they

had a couple,

[00:55:42] Bruce Anthony: when they had the album cover and it was all white [00:55:45] people instead of them,

[00:55:46] Jay Aundrea: yeah. Those were the common occurrences in the music industry [00:55:50] for black people at the time.

Drug

abuse, things like that. No, no. It's [00:55:55] something about the sacrifices those kids made [00:56:00] to be superstars. That [00:56:05] is, to me, a much more compelling story.

[00:56:07] Bruce Anthony: Actually, both of them [00:56:10] are in the top 10 lists. Ladies and gentlemen. I'm gonna be real honest black folks and seen [00:56:15] both movies and we love both movies. Alright, final, final thing and then we gotta [00:56:20] hammer out this list 'cause we're running short on time here. Crime. Social [00:56:25] Realism and blaxploitation movies.

We got New Jack City, set it off Juice. City of [00:56:30] God, the Bill Street. If Bill Street could talk. Shaft, Superfly, [00:56:35] Foxy Brown Coffee, sweet, sweet Back, badass song, black Seer, black [00:56:40] Caesar Cleopat Jones across 110 Street. The Mack and [00:56:45] Black eula,

[00:56:49] Jay Aundrea: Dolomite's not [00:56:50] on here.

Alright.

[00:56:51] Bruce Anthony: Dolomite is not on here 'cause it's a horrible movie.

[00:56:54] Jay Aundrea: Yeah, [00:56:55] it's terrible. And that's what made,

[00:56:58] Bruce Anthony: No, that, no, I don't wanna [00:57:00]

[00:57:00] Jay Aundrea: uh,

[00:57:00] Bruce Anthony: that movie.

[00:57:02] Jay Aundrea: oh goodness. The, the mock, [00:57:05] the, like the mock blacksploitation film

that came out?

[00:57:09] Bruce Anthony: It wasn't [00:57:10] supposed to be a joke.

[00:57:11] Jay Aundrea: it wasn't supposed to be a joke, but that's what made, oh God, [00:57:15] what's the name of that movie?

[00:57:17] Bruce Anthony: Dolomite is his name. No.

[00:57:19] Jay Aundrea: dynamite. [00:57:20] Black

Dynamite. That's what made Black Dynamite such a good

[00:57:23] Bruce Anthony: Yeah, it was

[00:57:24] Jay Aundrea: [00:57:25] Um,

[00:57:25] Bruce Anthony: picking?

[00:57:27] Jay Aundrea: new Jack City

[00:57:29] Bruce Anthony: Okay.[00:57:30]

[00:57:30] Jay Aundrea: Juice.

[00:57:31] Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.

[00:57:33] Jay Aundrea: [00:57:35] I'm really torn between Superfly and the Mac, but I'm leaning towards the [00:57:40] Mac.

[00:57:42] Bruce Anthony: Okay.[00:57:45]

[00:57:45] Jay Aundrea: Yeah.

[00:57:46] Bruce Anthony: Alright. I I liked if Beale Street could [00:57:50] talk. I like it. Mm. I mean, [00:57:55] I honestly, all the movies that you named, I, I love 'cause they're just a part of my life [00:58:00] and

Yeah. but like Mm. [00:58:05] I'm gonna say the Mack. Mm-hmm.

I, I, so I picked the Mac over Superfly [00:58:10] because it actually, there's a. There's multiple meanings in it, and it's [00:58:15] not solely just a exploitation movie. They actually were trying to make a point

and [00:58:20] they really weren't as super. I mean, they tried to, but it was just, it was the height of blap exploitation.

[00:58:25] The only thing that I would add in there is set it off, I think [00:58:30] set it off as so very, very important, uh, because it's [00:58:35] showing women can be bad asses too, just like in Hidden Figures, but on the other side,

right? [00:58:40] Women can be bad asses too. So those are some of the [00:58:45] movies. Right now your list is Menace to Society, Moonlight, hidden Figures, love Jones, a [00:58:50] Jackson's American Dream, new Jack City Juice, and the Mac 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, [00:58:55] 6, 7, 8.

your list, you could choose two more movies from, from [00:59:00] everything. What would it be?

I'm surprised you not choosing Purple [00:59:05] Rain.

[00:59:06] Jay Aundrea: no, because, uh, let's be so Prince. [00:59:10] anybody who knows me, uh, knows that I used to have a Prince poster [00:59:15] on my door, that, uh, our brother really didn't like [00:59:20] because it was just his head and it was gigantic and it just stared [00:59:25] right at him and he didn't like

it.

[00:59:26] Bruce Anthony: other brother, 'cause I

[00:59:27] Jay Aundrea: Yeah. Yes. And, [00:59:30] uh, prince has been my idol since I [00:59:35] was conscious of his music.

So the eighties. [00:59:40] But let's be honest, [00:59:45] p Brain's not a good movie.

It's not he's not a good [00:59:50] actor and it's not a good movie. So from core classics, I know you have do the right [00:59:55] thing on here for sure. for sure. But I actually, if I were [01:00:00] gonna pick a Spike Lee joint, because I definitely think one needs to be on here, it would be [01:00:05] Crooking.

[01:00:05] Bruce Anthony: knew you was gonna say Kirkland. I knew it. I specifically left it off 'cause it don't got no place [01:00:10] being in no top 10 list for

[01:00:11] Jay Aundrea: It.

[01:00:12] Bruce Anthony: need to be seen. I knew you was gonna say Kirkland.

[01:00:14] Jay Aundrea: [01:00:15] Yeah, it would be Ling I would add Daughters of the Dust.

[01:00:19] Bruce Anthony: [01:00:20] Okay, so you, so your top 10 would be Minutes to Society Moonlight, hidden [01:00:25] Figures. Love Jones. The Jackson Dream New Jack City Juice. The Mac Crook, [01:00:30] and Daughters of the Dust.

[01:00:31] Jay Aundrea: Yes. I think if you watch those [01:00:35] 10 films, it will give you a well-rounded, [01:00:40] layered, textured complex view of blackness. [01:00:45] Black love, black joy, black pain, the black [01:00:50] experience in this country. That's what I think.

[01:00:54] Bruce Anthony: Alright, my [01:00:55] top 10 list is Malcolm X Hoop Dreams. [01:01:00] Selma, uh, coming to America, [01:01:05] house Party, the best man, brown [01:01:10] Sugar, the five heartbeats, new Jack City [01:01:15] Juice,

[01:01:17] Jay Aundrea: That's 10.

[01:01:18] Bruce Anthony: and the Mac [01:01:20] one A and B one A and B. You got to watch the Mac. to watch the Mac, [01:01:25] but that was our top 10. You got, I, I, I don't think we cross blended any.[01:01:30]

Other movies. So you got his top 10, you got Jay's top 10 [01:01:35] and my top 10. So there's 20 movies for my black people out there that haven't seen those movies. We're gonna [01:01:40] strip your black card if you haven't seen those movies. I am. And you need to [01:01:45] go see 'em. And for non-black people, go check those out.

They're gonna give you a little bit of a black, [01:01:50] black person's experience in America with a little bit of humor, love, uh, [01:01:55] crime, and anger. But Jay, [01:02:00] on that note, what do you want to other people out there?

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[01:02:03] Jay Aundrea: Yeah. Uh, watch [01:02:05] those movies, like watch the whole list. I wish we could publish it [01:02:10] somewhere because,

[01:02:11] Bruce Anthony: We can, I will publish it on our social media accounts.[01:02:15]

[01:02:15] Jay Aundrea: that would be awesome because I feel like a lot of times, [01:02:20] uh, well all the time the media portrays us one way. But when you [01:02:25] watch films written by us, directed by us, starring us in our own [01:02:30] voices, you get a, a better idea of who we are. Uh, and we're, we're [01:02:35] beautiful.

[01:02:36] Bruce Anthony: We are black is beautiful. If y'all didn't know, black is [01:02:40] beautiful. And on that note, once again, our white [01:02:45] allies, thank you. Thank you. We need [01:02:50] your help to further the cause. But on that note, I want to thank you for listening. [01:02:55] I want to thank you for watching, and until next time, as always, [01:03:00] I'll holler. I.

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