Power, Style & Scandal: 'Sinners,' Fast Fashion & Smokey Robinson

Join Bruce Anthony and his sister J. Aundrea for an unfiltered Sibling Happy Hour on Unsolicited Perspectives! We dive deep into why “Sinners” is the must-see movie of the year-exploring its layered storytelling, standout performances, and why it’s left audiences spellbound. Plus, we unpack the end of an era as Forever 21 closes its doors, discussing the rise and fall of fast fashion and how online shopping is reshaping retail.
We’ll break down the Met Gala’s bold Black Dandyism moment, confront new sexual misconduct allegations against music legend Smokey Robinson, and chart the evolution of technology—from burning CDs and payphones to unlimited streaming and smartphones. Along the way, we explore the enduring impact of the MeToo movement and challenge Gen Z’s “what’s a dial-up?” reactions with nostalgic stories about dial-up internet and 10¢ text messages. #sinners #SinnersMovie #fastfashion #forever21 #metoomovement #genz #millennials #smokeyrobinson #unsolicitedperspectives
About The Guest(s):
Bruce Anthony is the host of "Unsolicited Perspectives," a podcast that dives into current events, pop culture, and social issues with humor and candor. He is known for his insightful takes and engaging conversational style.
J. Aundrea is Bruce’s sister and frequent co-host during “Sibling Happy Hour” episodes. She brings sharp wit, thoughtful commentary, and a personal touch to the discussions, especially when it comes to pop culture and generational experiences.
Key Takeaways:
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Movie Review – “Sinners”:
Bruce and J. Aundrea are both captivated by the film "Sinners," describing it as layered, original, and impactful. They praise its direction, acting (especially Michael B. Jordan), and originality, hoping it receives multiple Oscar nominations. -
The Power of Original Storytelling:
The hosts highlight the rarity and importance of original films in today’s entertainment landscape, noting that "Sinners" stands out because it isn’t based on pre-existing material. -
Generational Moviegoing:
J. Aundrea shares that "Sinners" was the first movie she saw in theaters since before the pandemic, underscoring its impact. -
The End of an Era for Fast Fashion:
The duo discusses Forever 21’s bankruptcy, reflecting on the shift from brick-and-mortar fast fashion stores to online shopping platforms like Shein and Fashion Nova. They note changing consumer habits and the challenges facing traditional retailers. -
Personal Anecdotes:
Bruce shares a heartfelt story about shopping for his goddaughter at Forever 21, illustrating the brand’s role in personal and family memories. -
Changing Retail Landscape:
Both agree that many fast fashion chains are struggling to keep up with online competitors and changing shopping habits, predicting more closures in the future.
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On “Sinners”:
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“I'm in a sinners full Nelson, and I cannot get out.”
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J. Aundrea
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“It can be entertainment for the mindless, if you want it to be, but if you want to be in thought or be intellectual about it, it's that as well.”
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Bruce Anthony
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“If I don't see Best Picture, best director, best cinematography, costume, soundtrack, and I would like to see a best actor nomination for Michael B. Jordan... If I don't see a clean sweep at next Oscars, no.”
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J. Aundrea
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“I think this movie is going to be impactful for generations... as impactful as a cinema experience and people walking away with Wow. That's just a cinematic masterpiece.”
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Bruce Anthony
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“It's not a book turned into a movie. It's not a comic book. It's not a remake... It's just original.”
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Bruce Anthony
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“Ryan has said this himself, he doesn't own vampires. Right? That's not an original concept... but he was like, how can I tell a story using these kinds of characters, but tell it my way? And I feel like he did that.”
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J. Aundrea
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On Forever 21 and Fast Fashion:
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“I remember going into Forever 21 the very first time, and it was with my goddaughter... She hammed it up for me and also swindled me outta more stuff.”
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Bruce Anthony
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“Brands like Forever 21 and H&M, like they were the first fast fashion that really was like national... but then you get Fashion Nova and Shein and it's all online and it's easier to get and return stuff.”
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J. Aundrea
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“Nobody wants to go to the store anymore. I can try it on. If I don't like it, send it back.”
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Bruce Anthony
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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome to Unsolicited Perspectives 🎙️🔥💥
00:44 Sibling Happy Hour: Spicy Takes & Drinks 🍹🌶️
02:31 Movie Review: "Sinners"-Why This Film Has Us in a Full Nelson! 🧛♂️🎬
10:41 Fashion & Shopping Trends: Forever 21, Fast Fashion, and the End of an Era? 👠💸🛍️
18:22 Met Gala Magic: Black Dandyism Steals the Spotlight 🎩✨
25:28 SMOKEY ROBINSON SCANDAL: 85-Year-Old Legend ACCUSED?! 😳⚖️
35:20 WHY WOMEN ARE TIRED OF BEING UNSAFE 😤🚨 (Trigger Warning!)
37:06 POWER CORRUPTS: Why Rich Men GET AWAY WITH IT 💰😡
38:57 The Me Too Movement & Generational Change: How Far Have We Come? 👊📢
45:58 Gen Z’s History Lesson: What Today’s Youth Are Missing 📚🤔
49:03 Technological Changes Over the Decades: Dial-Up Internet & 10¢ Texts?! 💾📞📲
01:03:22 CULTURE CRISIS: Why Parents FAILED Gen Z 🧠👨👩👧⚠️
01:06:45 Final Thoughts & Farewell: Until Next Time, Stay Curious! 🎭🔥
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Sibling HH 05/09/25
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Bruce Anthony: [00:00:00] Do you feel old? young kids will let you know that you are old and smokey Robinson in some mess. We gonna get into it. Let's get It
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Sibling Happy Hour: Spicy Takes & Drinks 🍹🌶️
Bruce Anthony: On today's episode, it's a sibling happy hour. I'm here with my sis Jay, Andrea. We're gonna be dilly dad in a little bit, and then we're gonna be talking about Smokey Robinson, and then we're gonna be talking about why millennials feel old. But that's enough of the [00:01:00] intro. Let's get to the show.
Bruce Anthony: What up sis?
- Aundrea: What up?
Bruce Anthony: I can't call it. I can't call it. You know, I. talked about it on the YouTube exclusive that Air. It's out right now. So
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: if you wanna watch the YouTube exclusive where me and my sister talk about Sinners, the movie, go ahead and check that out. Just beware. Spoilers, we talking about the movie,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: but we filmed that, I don't know, three days ago.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: I'm still obsessed with this movie
- Aundrea: There's something about it that gets literally in your spirit, in your mind. I don't know what it is, but it's got everybody, including me in a choke hold and will not let go. I'm in a full Nelson. I'm in a sinners full Nelson, and I cannot get out.
Bruce Anthony: I look, I've been watching so many little tidbits [00:02:00] about people who think that they got these clues and I'm like, Hmm, that is interesting. There's a lot of people out there, a lot of content creators dissect this and I really like it when who are, who study cinema or in cinema dissect so many things that will go over a lot of people's heads.
I
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: have a feeling that a lot of people will go to that movie and some of them will walk away and be like, it's a VA power movie. get any of the major themes that
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: was talking about.
- Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: didn't go into the,
Movie Review: "Sinners"-Why This Film Has Us in a Full Nelson! 🧛♂️🎬
Bruce Anthony: I didn't go into the movie thinking it was just gonna be a, a vampire movie.
I went in thinking, Hey Ron Cougar going do something special 'cause he don't ever miss
- Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: walked out like. Good God, that was so much and so great. And then the more and more I started thinking about it, the more and more I started picking up on little things. It can be entertainment for the mindless,
- Aundrea: Yeah, sure.
Bruce Anthony: if you want to be, don't know, in thought or be intellectual about it, it's that [00:03:00] as well.
It's literally for everybody, except for little kids. Little kids
- Aundrea: No, no, not not for children. No, no,
Bruce Anthony: you, um, are, I would say 10 or above, you can go see that movie.
- Aundrea: no. There's, there's, there's, they, they sex scenes in that movie.
Bruce Anthony: though.
- Aundrea: True. Yeah. Okay. Sure.
Bruce Anthony: at least 13. At least 13 could go see it.
- Aundrea: I think it is PG 13. Is it ready to r
Bruce Anthony: I die. Um, it's a lot of blood. So, but it's not a lot of gory blood, ladies and gentlemen. It's, it is not gory at all If you haven't seen it. And by the way, if you haven't
- Aundrea: It is rated R, yeah.
Bruce Anthony: if you haven't? Oh, well 'cause it's sex scenes. I don't think PG 13 has sex scenes.
And if you
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: this movie yet, ladies and gentlemen, why
- Aundrea: The Y.
Bruce Anthony: see this movie? It
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: My bestie, I told my bestie, I was like, you really should go see this movie. And she was like, okay, I'll wait for it to come on tv. I was like, no,
- Aundrea: No,
Bruce Anthony: you gotta go see it in the movie theater.
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: need to experience it on a big screen [00:04:00] with that sound.
So you my movie theater had the sound all the way up and I must have been on, on sitting underneath the speaker 'cause it was thumping, but I was still
- Aundrea: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I've, I have not seen a movie since before the pandemic. I have not been in a movie theater since before the Pandemic. This is the first movie that I've seen since 2019, and I saw it twice in the theater and I saw it twice,
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. I wanna go
- Aundrea: and I wanna go see it a third time because it's that good. If I don't, and listen, I'm saying this right here, right now.
If I don't see Best Picture, best director, best uh, cinematography costume soundtrack. And I would like to see a best actor nomination
Bruce Anthony: Oh, Michael B. Jordan
- Aundrea: for Michael B. Jordan.
Bruce Anthony: absolutely. Michael B. Jordan should get best actor, nomination,
- Aundrea: Um, if I, and, and best [00:05:00] director, best screenplay. If I don't see best supporting an actress. Yes.
Bruce Anthony: Lindell and for Haley Stansfield. Like, like, for, uh, I can't always butcher her name.
- Aundrea: Oh, you're talking about, uh, uh, uh, OMI Saka. Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: be in the category. I don't
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: would have when, 'cause it's almost not fair.
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: did. Look ladies and gentlemen, just go see this movie
- Aundrea: Just, yeah. If I, but if I don't see a clean sweep at next Oscars, no. I mean, they don't have to win. They don't have to win, I'm talking about, but they need to be in every one of these categories because from the sound to the sites, the costuming, everything. And it was so meticulous. It was so well researched.
It was so well done. No, I wanna see. I wanna see them nominated for everything [00:06:00] because this movie, I don't know what it is, because of your soul. I don't know what it's about this movie, but you can't stop thinking about it. The second time I went to see it, I saw it with our mother and she has been watching YouTube videos constantly of, of just interviews.
You know, Ryan, Ryan Kugler's interviews, interviews with the cast and stuff like just because of something, I don't know what it is.
Bruce Anthony: You know, we heard to do, uh,
- Aundrea: Mouthful of marbles.
Bruce Anthony: lot, a lot of, of intentionality of uh, uh, well, Michael B. Jordan, it just, his, his, his role, his acting like, there was one time where he just walked in the room and I was like, that's smoke.
- Aundrea: Yes. Like, like it's, I don't know what it is about this movie, but it's so layered and it's so nuanced and it's just, it was so well cast and acted and shot and directed and written and, um, yeah. To me, I know the year just started We're only in May, but that, that's the [00:07:00] movie of the year for me.
Bruce Anthony: I think this movie is going to be impactful for generations. And this is a high, high bar.
- Aundrea: Yeah. It's, yeah.
Bruce Anthony: not, they're not the same movies, but I'm talking about as impactful as a cinema experience and people walking away with Wow. That's just a cinematic masterpiece.
- Aundrea: And I'm sorry, I, I'm sorry about this. I forgot Jack O'Connell as, as Remic, I would like to see, I. A nomination for him as well.
Bruce Anthony: yeah. No, there is nobody, there is not one person
- Aundrea: Yeah. Right?
Bruce Anthony: 'cause the cast is really about seven, right? It's, it's, it's, uh, Michael B.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: uh, the guy that played Remic, uh, cornbread. Sammy,
- Aundrea: Annie Del Delta Slim.
Bruce Anthony: No, I mean Mary is, oh, Annie, Dr. So [00:08:00] it's like, it's a cast of like nine, like
- Aundrea: Yeah. Yeah. Don't forget Purine.
Bruce Anthony: pearling.
- Aundrea: The Sammy's love interest Purine was there. Uh, she took a couple, she took a couple vampires out before she got bit, she took a couple out. She, she,
Bruce Anthony: forgot to say spoiler warnings.
- Aundrea: oh, oh, spoiler warning. But, uh, but honestly, I feel like most people have seen it at this point just.
Bruce Anthony: in your circle have seen it. I know a lot of people who haven't seen it. I've been raging like, you need to go see this movie all
- Aundrea: Yeah, yeah,
Bruce Anthony: are like, um, uh, and I'm just like, no, I don't, I don't truly think you understand.
You need to go, you need to go see this movie. And I think the reason why it hits so well, and ladies and gentlemen, we're not gonna keep going on and on about this 'cause we've already got a whole episode on the YouTube. Uh, that's about 15 minutes long. Go check it out and after hours, 'cause we talked about it
- Aundrea: yeah. We talked.
Bruce Anthony: have been talking about this movie for a long time. But
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I think the reason why it hits home not only is great screen pay screenplay, [00:09:00] um, beautifully directed cinematography, all that stuff. also the fact that it's original.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: It's, it's not a, it's not a book turned into a movie.
- Aundrea: Right?
Bruce Anthony: not a comic book. It's not a remake, know, it's, it's, it's not treading on something else like Wicked, you know what I'm saying? It's just original
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I like originality, like not a lot of people are doing it
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: film, or music in all forms of entertainment.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: People aren't coming out with original stuff anymore.
- Aundrea: I mean, I mean, and, and, and Ryan has said this himself, vam, he doesn't own vampires. Right? That's not an original concept. The, the, um, all of these archetypes in the movie, right? The, the disillusioned blues singer or the struggling blues singer, um, the, the [00:10:00] gangsters, the, the, like the, the, the conjure woman, the different thing, like these are not archetypes he said that he owns, but he was like, how can I tell a story using these kinds of characters, but tell it my way?
And I feel like he did that. And it, it was just, it's just such a good movie. So good. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: ain't got a whole lot of money, go see the matinee. You know,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: is, well, I say it's only $13, but
- Aundrea: That's still. Yeah, it is.
Bruce Anthony: like 40, 45, $50 just
- Aundrea: Yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: worth it.
- Aundrea: It's worth it. It's worth it. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: money, check it out.
Fashion & Shopping Trends: Forever 21, Fast Fashion, and the End of an Era? 👠💸🛍️
Bruce Anthony: Forever 21 filed for bankruptcy and close all its stores.
- Aundrea: Hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Now I've, I've shopped at Forever 21, but obviously not for
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: The, the only times I've been in Forever 21, it's, it's been with girls and women, and I say girls specifically for my goddaughter. [00:11:00] A lot of people, I don't talk about my goddaughter a lot on this show. is my dear. She's been my goddaughter for over 20 years now. She chose me to be her godfather after her godfather that was named for birth. They didn't have a connection. Me and her had a connections, she's my cousin, but chose me to be her godfather. And I spoiled her rotten when she was a kid,
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: spoiled her rotten.
And I remember into Fair ever 21 the very first time, and it was with my goddaughter.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: we went to the mall and I told her, I said, look, you have a budget.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: This is the amount of money I'm gonna spend on you at the mall. Don't go over this budget. Of course I went over the budget
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: kept, 'cause she kept taking me into stores.
Oh, I just wanna look. Oh, can I get this? I know I'm over the budget. She went through the budget almost at Forever 21.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: but I'm fond of Forever 21. 'cause even though I was in a relationship at that particular time, all the women, because I'm older,
- Aundrea: [00:12:00] Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: years, 17 years older than my goddaughter
- Aundrea: Yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: 2019 years older than my goddaughter.
So I'm older. So I'm this grown man and she could theoretically be my
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: So they see this grown man taking this little girl out to go get clothes every woman in there was just like, oh, that is so sweet. And she hamed it up for me.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: was like, yeah, he's really good to me. He's gonna get me the, she hammed it up for me and also swindled me outta more
- Aundrea: Yes. Yes. Yeah. Let's, let's remember the real reason she amped it up. Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: hammed it up and swindled me outta more stuff that that's what it was.
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: a namesake forever 21. I mean,
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: 20 plus years ago. Bankrupt.
- Aundrea: And you know, it's so, like brands, like Forever 21 and h and m, like they were the first fast fashion that really was like national. Like there was fast fashion obviously before [00:13:00] that, but like, that was really like a, a popular like national brand. And, but then you get, you know, fashion Nova and Shein and it's all online and it's easier to get and return stuff and blah.
And there's less people going to the brick and mortar.
Bruce Anthony: Yes.
- Aundrea: And, um, you know, it just didn't evolve fast enough. It didn't evolve fast enough,
Bruce Anthony: I, I, I think a lot of these stores are going to start to go out of business. The, the main stores pretty much won't because they don't deal in fast fashion. Like
- Aundrea: right?
Bruce Anthony: and Nordstrom's,
- Aundrea: You are right.
Bruce Anthony: they're gonna maintains, but these Forever 20 ones, hms, I don't know if they have 'em all over, but, Hm. H and s stores like that,
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: where they give you fast fashion, cheaper made clothes, um, for decent prices,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: that I could never really fit. They're gonna go outta business and yeah, nobody [00:14:00] wants to go to the store anymore. I can
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: try it on. If I don't like it, send it back.
- Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: And for the most part, fashion, no. Van Shen ain't real good about returns. Okay, so they
- Aundrea: But, but a lot of times it's so cheap that you're just like, okay, that's fine. It, this one doesn't fit. Like I, like I purchased a dress for an event I was going to, and I didn't know what size I would need. I bought two from Sheen and the one that didn't fit I donated. So, you know, like that. But there, this was a dressel $7.
Like I didn't feel too bad about.
Bruce Anthony: that sucks because men's clothes don't be that cheap. Even for the fast fashion,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: easy. I could go on Fashion Nova, she spend a hundred dollars and have three, maybe four items where women can go on there and, and have 20 items.
- Aundrea: So you're gonna be mad if that's the case because I just purchased like, lemme see, I got like five [00:15:00] outfits and two pairs of shoes from, she and I spent less than a hundred dollars.
Bruce Anthony: What you buying shoes? She too. Now
- Aundrea: Because Bec No, I buy shoes from she. They're, and guess what? Them shoes are holding up just fine.
Bruce Anthony: uh, one of our listeners is a friend of mine and she's gonna listen to this and I know I'm gonna hear it from her 'cause she is completely against fast fashion to what it does to their environment.
- Aundrea: Yes, it is. It is terrible for the Yes. I'm not gonna lie about that.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. But she's gonna be like, yo, tell your sister stop it. And I'm
- Aundrea: I will absolutely will not. And so, so I'm gonna tell you that right now, friend. I'm so sorry. I do know the impact that Fast fashion has on the environment. Um, I do recycle, but you know, I, oh, well that's the thing. Like I, I recycle even my fashion, so like. Like I said, I bought two of the [00:16:00] same dress in two different sizes.
The one that didn't fit, I donated to the Salvation Army. So I don't, I don't, I'm not just filling landfills with, with clothes. I also recycle my clothes and, and I also buy recycle clothes. I also thrift shop too, so it's, you know, I, I, I know, I know it's, I, I'm not perfect. I know that it's creating waste and pollution and high carbon emissions, and the chemical pollution and all of the things.
I, I, I, I know I, I am also guilty of this, but I also live on a budget and I don't know how to sew. So there you have it.
Bruce Anthony: So you spent, you said you got what for a hundred dollars
- Aundrea: Five outfits,
Bruce Anthony: outfits, not five items.
- Aundrea: outfits. They were, they were like coordinated, like it was a shirt and pants together. It was coordinated. And then the outfits, two of 'em were like [00:17:00] red forward. The other one, the other three were pink forward. So I got a pair of pink sneakers and a pair of red sneakers
Bruce Anthony: Why you say it like that? Paying red sneakers and pink
- Aundrea: and pink sneakers.
Bruce Anthony: Hey, look, you know, I, that's one thing we gonna be doing is styling. 'cause I did see the picture that you took when y'all went to, um, the, the black
- Aundrea: Oh, black boy. Black boy Art Show. Yes. Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Jay got that outfit. And I was like, okay. It was taking a chance.
But you pulled it off
- Aundrea: How was it taking a chance? I thought it was very artsy.
Bruce Anthony: it was very artsy.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: it was very artsy.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: It was taking a chance.
- Aundrea: I was going to an art show.
Bruce Anthony: I mean, I, I said you pulled it off. I, siblings, you
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: all, all three of us will take some chances
- Aundrea: Yes, yes,
Bruce Anthony: Okay. We know that. I take chances all the time.
- Aundrea: yes.
Bruce Anthony: I'm getting, I'm getting grief right now. Our mutual friend is watching this episode right now [00:18:00] talking about, um, that damn dangling earring Bruce got in. Yes. And it's a feather too,
- Aundrea: And it's a, yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: by the way.
- Aundrea: And guess what it is? Dangling?
Bruce Anthony: dangling
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: it is.
- Aundrea: That's just the way it is. I mean, it's a, it's the, it's the style. I mean, you know, style is cyclical, but this, it, it's, it's what's in right now.
Met Gala Magic: Black Dandyism Steals the Spotlight 🎩✨
- Aundrea: I actually saw someone, and, uh, I wish we had time to talk about this, maybe on after hours, but the Met Gala, um, I don't know if you kept up, but this year's theme was the Black Dandy and it wasn't.
Bruce Anthony: means.
- Aundrea: Okay. Um, it was a, it was, the theme was black tailoring. Um.
Bruce Anthony: black fashion designers.
- Aundrea: No black dandyism, which is, let's see what, uh, Google has to say about this. A cultural movement and fashion style where black individuals use clothing and personal [00:19:00] style, particularly those associated with the European dandy as a form of expression resistance and assertion of identity in the face of societal limitations.
So,
Bruce Anthony: way of explaining all of that so I can understand it? Because you just said a lot of words.
- Aundrea: so I would, I would describe Black Dandyism is, is definitely men in suits and not just suits, but like multiple pieces, multiple pieces, suits. Um, there's definitely high style, high flair, um, color pattern mixture. Um, you would, you would probably liken it to like style of like maybe the forties, the thirties, or the forties, like.
Bruce Anthony: so what, uh, Malcolm X was wearing when he and shorty hit Harlem in, uh, in the Spike Lee movie.
- Aundrea: Yeah. Okay. Maybe not a, maybe not a zoot suit, but definitely.
Bruce Anthony: Why not a zoot suit?
- Aundrea: But a very, [00:20:00] very tailored, um, you know, pocket square Thai pen, like very high style, so,
Bruce Anthony: some pictures and there was a lot of outfits that I was like, okay, you know, that's
- Aundrea: yeah. Um, so I, I saw somebody on the Met Gala carpet with that dangling earing, and I forgot who it was. I can't remember who it was, but looked fantastic. It's just what's in vogue.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, no, like I was so happy when I saw the dangling earing earrings started becoming popular because, so ladies and gentlemen, I've been wearing earrings off and on since I was 18 years
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: almost, uh, 30 years, exactly 27 years. But, um, and I was one of the first people outta my peer group that wore earrings in both ears.
- Aundrea: Ah. Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: I, who, who was the one that I saw wearing? I think it was Baby. No, no, it was before Baby. [00:21:00] Nah, it was Baby, baby from big timers and cash money. And he was wearing them in both ears. And I was like, that's dope.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: it wasn't real popular yet.
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: And I remember when I came home, dad at the time wasn't feeling it.
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: He was like, men don't wear earrings in both ears. masculine, very machismo.
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: And I was like, first of all, I know you ain't questioning my machismo. Many women that they got running through here, number one. Number two, it's the, look dad and I look gorgeous in it. He was like, she, that's what I'm talking about, using the word gorgeous.
Can't you use answer? And now I'm gorgeous. Okay. Grandma said I was gorgeous. I'm gorgeous. And I remember my boys at first was like, I don't know if I'm feeling this
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I was also the one in the group that had, was wearing two chains.
- Aundrea: Yeah, but this was, this was before two chains, ladies, gentlemen, the rapper. Yes.
Bruce Anthony: been somebody to take chances and I always wanted to wear dangle earrings, but there was no way that you could really pull that off [00:22:00] with the hip hop gear that we were wearing at that time.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: baggy, super baggy clothes and big diamond earrings, but nothing dangling. And I wasn't gonna wear a hoop like I was Michael Jordan.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: dangly. I always said that I wanted the George Michael, I wanted that George Michael. I wanted to bring the eighties back,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: weren't back.
- Aundrea: They weren't back yet. They, yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: are all kind of mixing
- Aundrea: But we were still wearing dangly areas. If you, if you watch, uh, class Act. Was it Class Act? No,
Bruce Anthony: No,
- Aundrea: was, it was, uh, who was it? It was, it was like the three guys were after Kid play. I can't remember. It was.
Bruce Anthony: you house party.
- Aundrea: House party. One of 'em had full force, had the dangly earring.
Yes.
Bruce Anthony: really, they were coming off of the eighties.
- Aundrea: But still it was still in the nineties.
Bruce Anthony: house party was like 1990 and that look wasn't, remember they was wearing some stuff [00:23:00] that wasn't cool no more. That's the reason why couldn't play wasn't wearing it. In the eighties it was cool,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: got to the nineties it wasn't cool.
By the time we was in the two thousands, it damn sure wasn't cool. But I'm glad it is back and I'm glad
- Aundrea: boy. I am looking at some, some, uh, album covers of full force guys. If you want to know what the eighties was about, please put it is just kung fu kung fu vests with no shirt underneath. Uh, lots of, lots of, lots of belly shirts. Uh, rip if y'all at Jerry curls, if.
Bruce Anthony: Jerry curl. Yes. Full force. Hey look and can sing and dance.
- Aundrea: Please, please look up full force. But yes. Um, the Met Gala, it, it was, it was very black and very beautiful. And it also raised the most money for, um, the costume Institute, the Met Costume Institute that they've ever raised in their 77 year history.
Bruce Anthony: That's [00:24:00] really dope. That is super dope.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Well, speaking of music,
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: we gonna get into Smokey Robinson and his troubles next.
Bruce Anthony: Jay, something literally came across my timeline today. Today, and I switched up what we were going to, what we were gonna be talking about, which was Trump and I just don't feel like it.
- Aundrea: I just really don't want to. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: do find it. He humorous that he continuously puts these AI generated pictures on his true social and that the White House reposted,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I don't want to get into that. Something else came up on my timeline and I was like, oh, we gotta talk about this.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: It's about Smokey Robinson. Now, for those of you who don't know who Smokey Robinson is, some of you are probably younger millennials. Well, [00:25:00] hell, you might just be a millennial Gen Z people. You probably wouldn't know him unless you were on YouTube and you saw this video where he made this song about not doing gangs, and it was called Gang Banging. Look it up on YouTube. It's absolutely hilarious. But before that, he was the lead writer for Motown.
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: responsible for so many hits.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: is he in the news? Well.
SMOKEY ROBINSON SCANDAL: 85-Year-Old Legend ACCUSED?! 😳⚖️
Bruce Anthony: Four former housekeepers of Motown legend Smokey Robinson, have filed a lawsuit in Los Angeles County Superior Court accusing the singer who is now 85 years old of sexual assault, battery, false imprisonment, and workplace negligence.
The plaintiffs identified as Jane Doe through four alleged that Robinson subjected them to repeated sexual assaults, and in some cases, grape. Now we don't say the R word and we don't, and instead of the other word, we say corn [00:26:00] YouTube kind of blocks
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: grape. Okay, but you know what, what, what we mean?
So
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: things that he's accused of. During their employment at his residence in Chatsworth, bell Canyon and Las Vegas, beginning as early as 2007 and continuing until 2024. The lawsuit also names Robinson Wi wife, Francis Robinson as a co-defendant, claiming she contributed to a hostile work environment and failed to intervene in her husband's alleged misconduct. The accusers who are all Hispanic descent and worked as housekeepers. Some of 'em as personal assistants, cooks, or hairdressers say they were often summoned to private areas of the home when Francis Robinson was not present. Some alleged Robinson would emerge from the shower unclothed and coerce them into sexual acts with specific incidents described as occurring in the.
Blue bedroom, the laundry room, and the garage. The lawsuit further claims the women were paid below [00:27:00] minimum wage, worked excessive hours and faced threats and derogatory language. The lawsuit seeks at least $50 million in damages. The women have not yet reported the incidents to law enforcement, citing fears of or retaliation, public humiliation, and concerns about their immigration status. Robinson's representative has yet to comment publicly on the allegations. So, uh, what evidence do they have? They don't, haven't publicly disclosed any specific evidence yet, but I'm sure it'll come out in the civil lawsuit or else it's gonna be thrown out.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Jay, with all these things happening with all of these actors and musicians, entertainers, that's a, I wouldn't even say a rebound, a continuation of me too
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: smokey. Smokey Robinson,
- Aundrea: I mean, no one is above anything, right? Like [00:28:00] no one is. And we all know that. Um, power corrupts, certainly fame and celebrity do, money does. Um, so I don't know, you know, again, as many people know, my first instinct is always to believe the victims. Um, so, um, we'll see, we'll see as it plays out in court. The, the issue that I'm having, which I.
It is kind of resolved by the fact that they're concerned about their immigration status. So that leads a lot of people of Latin, Hispanic descent who work in the US who are, um, concerned about their immigration status to put up with a lot of very, um,
Bruce Anthony: Demeaning
- Aundrea: demeaning, [00:29:00] um, sometimes violent, um, situations dealing in domestic work in this, in this country, and obviously around the world.
But in this country specifically,
Bruce Anthony: and, and specifically right now.
- Aundrea: yes. So a lot of people are like, well, in 2007 he was what, 65, 66, 67 years old, something like that. So they're like, how this old man. Till today where he is like, I mean, or till till 2024. He's 85. So it's like, they're like, okay, how does this, oh, oh, oh. How does this old man, you know, how does this happen?
Well, if you are concerned about whether or not you'll even be able to stay in this country if you report this, that's how
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Right now here in Washington DC ISIS is here. Not [00:30:00] isis.
- Aundrea: I ice. Okay?
Bruce Anthony: I put ass on everything. Ladies and gentlemen. That's just, I'm black in America.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: in this area and they
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: restaurants. It
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: the Gestapo
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: and. A lot of people whose immigration status is, and they could even be legal residents here,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: being taken up by ISIS and put in places that their family members can't find them.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: a real cause for concern and it's been that way ever since 2016.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Okay. It's gotten worse the last three or four months, but it's been that way.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: How do I feel about this particular situation? Do I believe that it could be true? Absolutely.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: You said it absolute power corrupts Absolutely.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Okay. And I've been on this, you know, I'm a [00:31:00] nerd, I'm a history nerd.
I've been on this documentary Kick
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: does great documentaries and they have these decade documentaries. It's broken up into like 10 episodes. It tackling important issues from each decade. And
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm. Okay.
Bruce Anthony: And the show that I just finished watching, and this is Apropo, is the Women's Liberation
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: and the ERA, right?
The Equals Rights amendment that still hasn't been
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: and the treatment of women specifically in this country. I don't know what it's like in other countries.
- Aundrea: Right?
Bruce Anthony: women historically have just been treated like ish
- Aundrea: Yes. Second class citizens. Yes.
Bruce Anthony: So much so that there was an internet story that was, was like, what if Eve didn't bite the apple?
- Aundrea: I don't think she did personally.
Bruce Anthony: And it [00:32:00] was really Adam who bit the apple and blamed it on Eve. And that's the reason why men have an Adam's. Apple
- Aundrea: Yeah. It got stuck in his throat.
Bruce Anthony: stuck in his throat 'cause of lie. And I was
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: that is? That sounds like something that a man would do just completely lie on a woman. I'm watching this documentary on CNN of just people fighting to exist,
- Aundrea: Yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: And in that fight to exist, there's always a counter to that. Don't change what I love.
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: me alone. Well,
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: bothering you, I'm talking about me.
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: going to change what I believe in, in my existence.
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: that's, I'm just trying to exist. Well, well, if your existence means that my way of life is gonna change, I don't want you to have your existence.
That's essentially what is happening.
- Aundrea: That's exactly it. Yes.
Bruce Anthony: this was in the 1970, so over 50 years ago. And we're dealing with the same stuff.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: But what I do see a change is that [00:33:00] now the men who do these things are being brought to task.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: It doesn't matter if you're Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, or Kelly Diddy, Shannon Sharp or Smokey Robinson.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: The only person that can actually get away with it is the current president of the of the United States. That's the one where he's like Teflon.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: men are being called to task. And of course the majority of men not gonna say all, 'cause I'm not one of 'em, but the majority of men are gonna be like, you didn't do that. Because it's always natural to try and take the side of your team.
- Aundrea: Right, right.
Bruce Anthony: And just naturally, men are always like, women always lie, women don't always lie. I'll tell you who always lie, it's men. But I'm just happy whether or not this story is true. And I hope it's actually not true because I hope they, these women actually didn't have to go through
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: like [00:34:00] prison.
- Aundrea: yeah, yeah.
Bruce Anthony: But if they did. I'm glad smoking is being called to task because these are the things that should be happening. And
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: all those people who, who will wanna make excuses and wanna say No he didn't do it. Women be lying. Y'all are the problem.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Y'all are the problem. So I, like I said, I hope this isn't true, but if it is true, he need to be buried underneath the jail.
I don't care if he's 85.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: been a terror for 17 years and it's probably, it didn't start, if it's true, it didn't start 17 years ago,
- Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: it could probably go all the way back to Motown.
- Aundrea: Could.
Bruce Anthony: It could probably go all the way back to Motown and those women are, had to be shh
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: had so much power
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: was Barry Gordy's golden boy.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: and that does something to your psyche. I don't know what it's like to have a lot of power. I [00:35:00] know what it's like to be in charge, to be in charge of hiring and firing people.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: that type of stuff goes to people's heads.
- Aundrea: Yeah. You start to feel like you are Teflon. Like you are untouchable and that the world is yours. The world is your oyster, and you can do whatever you want.
WHY WOMEN ARE TIRED OF BEING UNSAFE 😤🚨 (Trigger Warning!)
Bruce Anthony: I
- Aundrea: And for years, decades they have, that has been true.
Bruce Anthony: boys will be boys.
- Aundrea: Right? That has been true. Um, but we tired, I'm be honest with you. We tired. We tired that we can't just go to work and just do our jobs and go home and be safe at home.
Be safe at the grocery store or at the gas station, or just anywhere. Just be able to just exist in safety. We're tired of not being able to exist in safety. And so, um, we gonna start, we gonna start [00:36:00] talking. And I would love a lot of these, a lot of these, uh, you know. Older women from the Motown era. I would love to hear their stories.
The only reason we knew what was happening to Tina Turner is because it was so damn public, the divorce and everything, and it was so damn public.
Bruce Anthony: Not at the end though. Not during.
- Aundrea: Not during
Bruce Anthony: I wasn't alive, so I don't
- Aundrea: right. I don't know. But, uh, you look at, uh, Aretha Franklin biopic, she was getting, she was getting beat.
Bruce Anthony: Hmm.
- Aundrea: You would just, I would love to hear their stories about, you know, because again, they're also growing up in a time where this is just the way things were. There were no laws against beating your wife until like the sixties or seventies, I can't remember it.
But there were no laws against beating your wife. IWII. And so the protections for women, this is [00:37:00] new. Um, I hope more women continue to speak up.
POWER CORRUPTS: Why Rich Men GET AWAY WITH IT 💰😡
- Aundrea: We continue to change the way these men interact with, not just with women, but with power,
Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.
- Aundrea: the way they interact with the world, having money and fame and celebrity and power just change it, and they don't even have to be a lot of power.
He could be the assistant manager at Kenny's shoes.
Bruce Anthony: Not, not Kenny's shoes. Not Kenny's shoes.
- Aundrea: You know what I'm saying? It don't even have to be a lot of power and it corrupts so quickly.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. So you both talk about our time working in the restaurant
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: and I working, I've heard the hospital is the same. Working in the restaurant industry is Sodom [00:38:00] and Gomorrah come to come to real life. Okay. And you know, in my younger years I've changed. I've grown up. I've grown up. Ladies and gentlemen, I just wanna point this out.
I was a serial gropper. Um, there were some women that, it
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: grop me, I grope you back and it was cool. And then there was some women that were absolutely furious about it
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: and I was like, never do it again.
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: I wanna hear what they feel about it now. Did they just deal with it because it was the culture
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: or were they really okay with it? Because I think sometimes we get in these environments
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: that we wouldn't stand for will accept because their environment is accepting of it. I say all that to say this.
The Me Too Movement & Generational Change: How Far Have We Come? 👊📢
Bruce Anthony: The reason the Me Too movement has [00:39:00] taken off is because they are the children. Maybe the grandchildren of the women who led the Women's Liberation Movement in the sixties and seventies.
- Aundrea: We're also, we're also the daughters of the women who told us these stories. Like we wa we saw what was going on with our grandmothers and, and aunts and all these things. And we, so we're, we're also the, the daughters of these women?
Bruce Anthony: right. the point I'm trying to make is, is that when one person speaks up and says, you know, I did not like that. I
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: was the environment that we were in, but I didn't like it. I didn't like the casting couch.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Oh, I, I didn't really like it either, but I just thought that was the way things are.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: That gives power the next person to be like, look, I wasn't okay with this.[00:40:00]
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: accepted it.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: And that's what a lot of people who combat people coming forward
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: is everybody's been in this situation, they've been in an environment where they accepted something. That goes against them.
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: But because the, because of the environment, they just accepted it. And when they got outta that environment, they was like, why was I accepting that?
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: all had those type of situations. So you just need to look inside of yourself and you need to be like, well, why, why did these women stay for 17 years? sometimes even when you doesn't feel right to you, you accept the environment that you're in because the environment dictates that's acceptable.
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: it's not until you're outside of that environment that you realize, I wasn't okay with that. That actually really, really sucked. And I don't want to be a part of any of
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: And that's what people need to, to really, really realize. When people gain their voice, it's [00:41:00] because they see I was accepting something that was against my soul.
- Aundrea: Yeah. And I, and, and I would challenge the, the people who challenge when it takes women sometimes years to come forward to ask themselves, well, what would you have done when faced with, when faced with a, when faced with a man like Harvey Weinstein and the power and the reach that this man had? What exactly would you have?
Oh, whoop it. I whoop it. No, you wouldn't there
Bruce Anthony: a
- Aundrea: you wouldn't there.
Bruce Anthony: about if I, if this was my situation, this, I would
- Aundrea: If I, if I was a slave, they would've had to, no, you would've been out there picking cotton.
Bruce Anthony: was the exact analogy that I was about to use, but I was gonna wait for it, the behind the scenes. But that was the exact knowledge that I was gonna use. But I am one of them people that I would like, I wouldn't have been out there. It would've been
- Aundrea: Y.
Bruce Anthony: hot.
- Aundrea: Nope. Y had, Nope,
Bruce Anthony: would've hurt.
You know how I feel about my
- Aundrea: nope. And you'd had a [00:42:00] bad back 'cause you tall and you stooping over that cotton, but you would've been out there getting that cotton, like, stop it.
Bruce Anthony: yeah. People will accept until somebody shows them,
- Aundrea: Yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: And I'm saying this I'm not. I am bashing, bashing opponents against people speaking
- Aundrea: Mm.
Bruce Anthony: Women to stop being the enemy of women. Men are always naturally gonna be opposed to being called to task for their actions because nobody ever really wants to be accountable.
- Aundrea: No.
Bruce Anthony: not really. 'cause that takes you looking inside yourself and critiquing yourself.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: truly wants to be accountable. So there's always gonna be a natural, a natural animus, is that the, the word I'm looking for
- Aundrea: Uh, maybe
Bruce Anthony: women coming forward and men not wanting to hear it.
- Aundrea: Yes. Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: Okay. But [00:43:00] dammit, women, I don't care if, if you're like, your man would never do anything like that, other men would, and you know it.
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: You've seen it and you've experienced it.
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: it off. Don't combat women. Because what men will do is they will find that one woman, or the grouping of
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: say men ain't bad and prop them up.
- Aundrea: Yeah. But here's the thing. You ain't never gonna get rid of a pick me. You
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Well,
- Aundrea: ain't never gonna get rid of a pick me. You could. No. They are shameless because a hundred a a a pick me. Yes. Because a hundred percent of women have been sexually harassed. In this country, you have dealt with some sort of harassment in this country.
I don't know, can't even walk down the street, can't do nothing, can't even get your grass cut. Can't do nothing. Okay? [00:44:00] So, so for them to then get on a platform and say that this doesn't happen when they know it does. 'cause it's happened to them, it's happened to their sisters, cousins, aunts, uh, mother, uh, grandmother, your friends, you, you know that it does.
And for you, for the acceptance and validation of some man that hates you,
Bruce Anthony: Mm
- Aundrea: hates you, gets on the internet and talks about you like a dog, but you want that validation so badly that you're willing to sell yourself out. Sell other women out. Yes. That pickies are 100% shameless. You cannot be shamed because they have no conscience.
Bruce Anthony: mm. Will, you know who [00:45:00] can't be shamed?
- Aundrea: Who,
Bruce Anthony: Gen Z, look, they not keeping their mouth shut. They
- Aundrea: Nope.
Bruce Anthony: they believe they stand
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: However, as much as I play praise Gen Z, y'all need to do a little bit of a history lesson just a tad bit 'cause y'all don't know certain stuff that just happened a decade prior to you
- Aundrea: I,
Bruce Anthony: born.
- Aundrea: I actually have a different take on that, but let's talk about it.
Bruce Anthony: Okay, we gonna get into that next.
Bruce Anthony: Alright sis, we talking about Gen Z and them not knowing about stuff that happened a decade prior, but you said you had a different take. But before I say anything, I need to hear what your take is.
- Aundrea: It's not their fault.
Bruce Anthony: Uh, well. Okay.
- Aundrea: It's not their fault. You know whose fault it is? Their parents. Yeah. It's their parents' fault. Because how do you And I know Earth, wind, and Fire.
Gen Z’s History Lesson: What Today’s Youth Are Missing 📚🤔
Bruce Anthony: Because our parents, didn't we go see [00:46:00] them in concert?
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Yeah. Didn't wanna go. By the way mom and dad I fought, did not want to go. Actually had a good time, but
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: of them had a good time. 'cause of the Gap band. But yes, we
- Aundrea: Yeah. How do we know the Gap Bear?
Bruce Anthony: Well, it's not, don't think our situation is parallel to a lot of people
- Aundrea: Because our, our father was a musician and, yes.
Bruce Anthony: were so young.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: is the one that told me who Jodeci was. We were riding in the car, it's 1991, we're riding in the car forever. My lady came on
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: I was like, oh my God, this is a great song. is this? She's like, oh, that's Jodeci. And in my mind I'm like, why do, why do you know who Jodeci is?
- Aundrea: because she was like,
Bruce Anthony: Mom is 34.
- Aundrea: yeah. She was like,
Bruce Anthony: She's 10 years younger than I am
- Aundrea: yeah, she knows who Joda is. Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: is. So we had young parents
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: [00:47:00] us to the seventies,
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: but we, but we didn't know nothing about no sixties.
- Aundrea: Uh, now you know what? Because I first started listening to stuff in the sixties, our grandparents.
Bruce Anthony: Mm.
- Aundrea: Our grandparents. Uh, and so, and then, um, the Stevie Wonder at the close of a Century album, it was like four disc album came out and it started with him starting out in Motown as a child, and then, and then the Jackson five, no one.
Bruce Anthony: into Jackson five before anybody Michael Jackson was out with bad.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: And we were living in Richmond at the time. So I'm seven or eight years
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: And so ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to get to why I'm bringing this up. But Dad had, mom and Dad had all these old records
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: [00:48:00] and he was like, you like Michael Jackson?
You need to listen to the Jacksons. I was like, who are the Jacksons?
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: Right? Who are the Jacksons?
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I knew about the Victory album, but I didn't know that they was really doing
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: was like, here, listen to all these records. And he had all of their records after when they became the Jacksons and not the Jackson five.
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: Mind you, ladies and gentlemen, a record player. 'cause this is around the time where tapes, records were still kind of around. Eds were the new thing.
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: records were still kind of being sold, but not really.
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: And I learned how to work a record player 'cause dad showed me how to work a record player, how to put it on a song that you wanna listen to.
- Aundrea: Yep.
Bruce Anthony: no, it's not a button you could just push to,
- Aundrea: Now you gotta, you gotta count the lines.
Bruce Anthony: count the lines.
- Aundrea: There are little line breaks. And you count the lines. Okay. I'll need the third song. So go to the third line. And that's how you start the song. Yes. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: But yes, we had parents that were younger. [00:49:00] I, I get what you're saying that the parents aren't showing the kids.
Technological Changes Over the Decades: Dial-Up Internet & 10¢ Texts?! 💾📞📲
Bruce Anthony: But ladies and gentlemen, what are we talking about? So there is some viral videos going around and I guess this would be Gen Alpha.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: I don't know where Gen Z ends in Gen Z.
Alpha begins, but Gen Z could still be a part of this as well. 'cause they don't recognize certain
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: there are parents talking to their kids. They're teenagers now.
- Aundrea: Uh,
Bruce Anthony: like, they would ask them, Hey, do you know what burning a CD is? And they would say things like sending a CD on fire.
- Aundrea: yeah. Uh, so Van Alpha is 2010 onward. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: are Gen alpha kids. Okay, so I'm a te, but Gen Z could still fall into that. So younger Gen
- Aundrea: Yes. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: know really what payphone are.
- Aundrea: No,
Bruce Anthony: Don't know what calling cards are.
- Aundrea: no.
Bruce Anthony: ask him, Hey, do you know what a collect call is? Uh, no. They were flabbergasted.
- Aundrea: Yeah. Unless they, unless they know somebody that's been locked up. [00:50:00] Because you definitely still deal with collect calling from the J
Bruce Anthony: in jail
- Aundrea: unfortunately. I know.
Bruce Anthony: Okay,
- Aundrea: So, yes. You still, it's like you put,
Bruce Anthony: you for a call? A collect call now.
- Aundrea: put you, well, you put money on like an account and they can call you. Yes. But it still gets, you are getting a call from blah, blah, blah, you know? Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: no, a collect call was when somebody didn't have no money. You was at, 'cause we used to have payphones back in the day, ladies
- Aundrea: Yes, yes.
Bruce Anthony: these young kids don't know what a payphone is. It was like, when you gotta buy your phone, no,
- Aundrea: No.
Bruce Anthony: or phones that were out in public,
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: you had to have a quarter and later 35, no.
Later it got
- Aundrea: It started as a dime, first of all,
Bruce Anthony: before our time
- Aundrea: it, but it started as a dime, but our time, it was a quarter and then it did go up to like 35 cent after that. Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: And you would [00:51:00] put some money in the little slot and you would dial your number. Now if you didn't have no money, there was a certain system that you could use
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: somebody and they had to accept the charges and they would be, those charges would be put on their phone bill.
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah.
Long distance calls cost money back
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: These kids also don't know internet to them is so readily available and so fast.
- Aundrea: Yeah. It's literally just you open the browser and you're on the internet. That is not how it used to be.
Bruce Anthony: Now, we've talked about dial up before,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: don't understand the fact that the internet, you had to go to the computer to get to. That was the only place that you could get the internet.
- Aundrea: Yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: no such thing as streaming.
- Aundrea: No.
Bruce Anthony: internet to your television now.
- Aundrea: Yeah, your phone, your tablet, everything. You can get the internet. No. You had to sit down at a desktop computer and, and again, I gotta explain what a desktop [00:52:00] computer is.
Bruce Anthony: no, these young kids know what a desktop is because they're using those for gaming systems.
- Aundrea: Okay. Okay. Yes. You had to sit at a desktop computer
Bruce Anthony: Yeah.
- Aundrea: and, and, and get onto the internet. It wasn't, the internet's just always on and there, and you just open the browser. No, you had to go to the internet. You had to get there. I, I don't know how else to describe it, but, but that's, that's what it was.
You had to log on.
Bruce Anthony: They, they got songs now at the push of a button.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: want at the push of a button. They
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: what it's like even in the internet age to try and download a song, forget a whole album, a song
- Aundrea: One song you're
Bruce Anthony: Napster, Limewire Kaza.
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: you got the song, you
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: it all night long
- Aundrea: All night. Yep.
Bruce Anthony: you wanted or you hear gangster grills, grills, grills, grills gr [00:53:00] all through the song 'cause
- Aundrea: A, a DJ Mac exclusive. And you'd be like, no,
Bruce Anthony: I just want the song they
- Aundrea: just want the song. I, I had to,
Bruce Anthony: oh, go ahead.
- Aundrea: I had to relive that experience. 'cause I, it, you know, I'm, uh, I'm a data scientist now. I was actually coding something and I was running a model and it actually took hours all day long for this model to run. And I'm like, this is how the internet used to be.
Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.
- Aundrea: This is how it used to be. This is how long things used to take. I. On the internet, and I was flabbergasted that I actually had to wait more than like five minutes for something to render or for a model to run. And, and because even I've gotten used to how quick and accessible everything is when, but, but it but what, [00:54:00] 20 years ago that it really wasn't?
Bruce Anthony: Look, wifi was barely a thing 20 years ago.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: It was barely a thing. Um, it used to be that you only had internet at one computer.
- Aundrea: Yes. Because.
Bruce Anthony: the entire
- Aundrea: Because you're plugged in with your phone cord into the modem. So it's on the internet exists only on that computer. It is not available to the entire household. You have to go, I don't understand. Uh, there's no other way for me to describe. You had to go to the internet.
Bruce Anthony: Look, another thing, these kids don't get these, I'm talking about gen Alpha now,
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: gen alpha, the, the, these kids who are in high school now,
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: They don't know. 'cause they could just FaceTime their friend whenever they want to,
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: of the day and they could talk for hours.
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: We had to wait until after 9:00 PM
- Aundrea: [00:55:00] yeah.
Bruce Anthony: because we only had a certain amount of hours on our cell phone.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: But after 9:00 PM
- Aundrea: Not hours, minutes. Every our cell phones, it was in minutes. It wasn't like, oh, you get six hours free. No, you had. 120 minutes if you, if you got the cheat plan to talk. And then after that they started charging you per minute. Yes.
Bruce Anthony: prices. So you had to wait until after nine when it was free. And don't call me before nine. 'cause
- Aundrea: Nope.
Bruce Anthony: one of my boys used to always call me at like eight forty five. I'm like, bruh, just wait 15 minutes.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I'd forget and I'm like, yo, we've been talking for 10 minutes. I'm using up my minutes, man.
I call you back after
- Aundrea: Yeah. Or call or call my house phone. Don't call my cell phone before 9:00 PM If you gotta talk to me before 9:00 PM call my house phone. And a house phone is kids a stationary [00:56:00] phone that exists in the house that was available to everyone in the house. Everyone shared the same phone number and you had that phone there and anybody could call it.
For anybody in the house.
Bruce Anthony: One number
- Aundrea: One number for everybody.
Bruce Anthony: Everybody didn't have a number.
- Aundrea: Let me tell you, in high school, if you had your own line,
Bruce Anthony: that I was just getting ready to say that when you was really fancy, you had, you had a second line.
- Aundrea: you had your own line in high school and you didn't have to deal with, this is another thing, kids don't have to deal with the parent picking up the other end and being like, get off the phone. I need to make a call. And you on there with your friend or you trying to holler at a timoni or something like that and you just got embarrassed.
If you had your own line and you never had to deal with your parent cutting in, talking about they need to use the phone. 'cause you had your own, you were it. Like you were it. If you had a pager and your own line, you were it.
Bruce Anthony: Lemme tell you, [00:57:00] our mother was a hater I love her dealer. I love her dealer.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: be on there. Trying Tom on a young Tinder, bro.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: what I'm saying? Hello? Hello. You know if there's no dial tone that somebody's on the phone,
- Aundrea: Yes
Bruce Anthony: find the phone
- Aundrea: you could.
Bruce Anthony: out what they're talking, but
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Hello? Hello? Yeah, mom, I'm on the phone. Well get off 'cause I need to make a phone call. Okay. Several times. Several times. Dad, every once in a round. Dad. Every once in a while, but then dad would go on the phone. Who you talking to? a friend of mine. is it? It's, it's Lisa. Hello Lisa. It is nice to meet you.
I'm Bruce's father.
- Aundrea: You will never notice struggle kids. You will never know the struggle. Y'all get mad because your parents want your location.
Bruce Anthony: A location. Well, they didn't need our location.
- Aundrea: They need our location because they knew where we were.
Bruce Anthony: Well, uh, well sometimes we, we were [00:58:00] kids.
- Aundrea: Yes, yes, yes.
Bruce Anthony: didn't know where we were.
- Aundrea: You didn't know where we were. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: they could go. They would probably find us,
- Aundrea: Yes. Or.
Bruce Anthony: out in the wilderness.
- Aundrea: We literally, they did. You ain't know where your kid was. You just hope they told you the truth. But truly, you ain't know where your kid was. But it's like y'all worried because they got your location on. They would get, get on the other line and listen and you wouldn't know another person was on the phone.
If they had their finger, their hand over the receiver, they'd be like, and listening in on that conversation, what they talking about. Okay, you had no privacy
Bruce Anthony: these,
- Aundrea: unless you left the house.
Bruce Anthony: kids also don't know texting, used the cost
- Aundrea: Texting per text.
Bruce Anthony: per text
- Aundrea: You had to pay money to text people. That was not a free service. That this whole unlimited texting, [00:59:00] unlimited minute, unlimited like talk time and all of that stuff. Yeah. There was no unlimited, nothing that came with technology. The technology, it got cheaper to do these things because the technology got so advanced that they could offer unlimited.
But before you had to pay for that time, you had to pay,
Bruce Anthony: when you had to pay for data,
- Aundrea: you had to pay for data. Yes.
Bruce Anthony: unlimited. I mean, I understand there are still some plans. That's not unlimited, but most, most cell phone companies give you unlimited
- Aundrea: Yes. Uh, up.
Bruce Anthony: a thing that didn't used to be a
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: I and I that this just came to me. I am a block texter.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: are block texter, some people are stream texters, ladies and gentlemen. What I mean by that is somebody, you're having a conversation with somebody and they send you seven texts in a row. They're all one line,
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: right? And they go, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
- Aundrea: Yes,
Bruce Anthony: hate that
- Aundrea: it is people putting in their own [01:00:00] beats, like their own pauses. So it'll be, girl, I gotta tell you something. And that's the end of the message. And then the next message is, 'cause you are not gonna believe this and you have to read it. It it, it's inserting drama into what you would normally just, probably just, you do a block.
So people just read it. You try to read it in the other person's voice, but
Bruce Anthony: always read in another person's
- Aundrea: yeah. But the stream text is, is to insert those, those beats into a conversation, those dramatic pauses.
Bruce Anthony: Uh, not everybody does
- Aundrea: I am actually neither. I don't do a block and I don't do the stream. I send you one text and, and, and it's short. And if I have to send more, then I'm sending a voice note.
And if I have to do more than one voice note, then I'm calling because I don't, I'm not going, I'm not gonna write a book back and forth.
Bruce Anthony: you the queen [01:01:00] of voice note, but I got a friend and it is like, okay. She's always like, okay, lemme tell you what's going on. And then I'll have like seven voice notes 'cause they're only a minute long.
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: seven voice notes. I was like, you know, you probably just call me.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: like hearing, it's like hearing an audio novel.
- Aundrea: Yes. It is like a podcast. Like honestly, sometimes I give voice notes from my friends and I just, I make some popcorn and sit down, turn the phone on and go play all, and, and you get the tea that way, you know, you get the tea, but the kid,
Bruce Anthony: texter and I think it's because text used the cost per text
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: got used to saying everything that I needed to say and one text. 'cause I'm only paying 10 cents. Once
- Aundrea: Yes, yes.
Bruce Anthony: it's 10 cents. What's a big of a deal? First of all, I was only making minimum wage.
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: was six 80
- Aundrea: yeah, yeah.
Bruce Anthony: so you do the math at six 80 an hour for 40 hours a week. How much money is that?
- Aundrea: It ain't a lot.
Bruce Anthony: Ain't a lot.
- Aundrea: It ain't a lot.
Bruce Anthony: It is a little bit more than [01:02:00] $250.
- Aundrea: Right? And then take texts. So it ain't a lot. Uh, and think about how many text messages you send a day. Think of how much data you use. Just checking your email or getting on Instagram, like how much data you actually go on to your bill and look at how much data you use. And then multiply that by 10 cent and you tell me if it adds up or not.
Bruce Anthony: I realized that I needed to get an unlimited plan, probably 10. It was like 10 or 12, 15 years ago. Time is all just morphing together as I get older.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: But, um, when I saw that I had used 32 gigs of data in one month.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: I was like, oh yeah, I need the unlimited plan 'cause uh, this is ridiculous.
- Aundrea: $700 phone bill. [01:03:00] This is untenable. Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: This is ridiculous. But
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: and gentlemen, this is, you know, if, if your Genzer, younger Gen Zers and Gen Alpha don't know about the nineties or what they love to call now, the 19 hundreds,
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: it's your fault.
- Aundrea: No, it's,
Bruce Anthony: this. You need to show 'em movies from that era and then they'll ask questions.
- Aundrea: yes.
CULTURE CRISIS: Why Parents FAILED Gen Z 🧠👨👩👧⚠️
- Aundrea: It's the parents' fault for not, I, I'm telling you, if and when I become a mother, I am showing them the old movies. You are gonna listen to the old songs and watch the, the biopics and all of the things you are gonna know, your history, your cultural history and heritage. You are gonna know it. It is, it is my responsibility to make sure that you understood how difficult it was for me to live when I was your age and how easy you have it.
Bruce Anthony: yeah. No, don't do that.
- Aundrea: No, no, [01:04:00] no. But I mean, yeah, I mean it's like, um, you know, passing on cultural traditions and stuff like that. I think we lost the plot somewhere and people are not making sure. I love when I see kids that, um, will vibe out to like, oh, SWV or something like that. You know what I'm saying? I'm like,
Bruce Anthony: That they learn from TikTok.
- Aundrea: what? You know about SWV?
They, no, they'll know the whole out. Why? Because when they mom was cleaning up. I'm like, you know, our parents are playing their music. We are playing our music. And so that's nineties jams to clean up too.
Bruce Anthony: were also playing nineties jams. 'cause
- Aundrea: Yes, yes, yes.
Bruce Anthony: Don't be cruel. Come on.
- Aundrea: But again, our parents were young, so it was still, it was their music, so
Bruce Anthony: so young,
- Aundrea: it was their, they were the demographic for this music.
So they were in their thirties. They were young, like, so, uh, yeah. Yeah. So, so [01:05:00] this was also, they were also listening to the radio and knowing in the new songs and stuff, like it was there. It, they were just old to us, but like, no. Now you, you've got kids that like know these old songs and stuff and, uh, and it's a hundred percent because of the way that they were raised.
So when you got kids that just don't know nothing, that's the parents' fault, that's not the kids. But they don't know to look for this stuff.
Bruce Anthony: Well, I had heard about blaxploitation movies and then sought them out. Our parents didn't introduce us to blaxploitation movies.
- Aundrea: Um, through the music because the Ray I knew about, uh, sweet Sweetback, badass song was because didn't Earth, wind and Fire do the soundtrack for that Before they were really Earth, wind and Fire, they did that soundtrack and so yeah. Well,
Bruce Anthony: You know?
- Aundrea: Melvin Van Peoples,
Bruce Anthony: God rest his soul.
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: note, ladies [01:06:00] that note, Jay, what you want? Tell the people out there.
- Aundrea: A, there's a product that my mom put me on too called Skin. So soft. And there's a mosquito repellent. Get it Because I don't know if y'all see my hands, they're cut up, scratched up because I got so many mosquito bite, I wear long sleeves and long pants. So they've been biting me on my hands. My and I I've been itching.
Skin salt. It don't stink it. It is, it's very nice. It's a lovely, uh, uh, blend and it keeps the mosquitoes away. You gonna need that. You gonna need that. Especially down here in Atlanta.
Bruce Anthony: Oh, okay. Get so soft. They don't even sponsor the show. Ladies, gentlemen. But on that note,
- Aundrea: Get it.
Final Thoughts & Farewell: Until Next Time, Stay Curious! 🎭🔥
Bruce Anthony: want to thank you for listening. I want to thank you for watching, until next time, as always, I'll holler.
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