Marvel vs DC, Trump's Equity Blunder & Work Place Friendships

Dive into a rollercoaster of dirty gossip and juicy workplace stories, then uncover why Trump’s Digital Equity Act faux pas just sabotaged his own rural voters. We break down the internet desert across fly‑over America and trace the shocking 1676 invention of “white” as a legal category. Plus, get our hot takes on the latest Marvel vs. DC trailers, and why Ironheart can’t catch a break. Along the way, we explore white guilt, allyship pitfalls, and share secrets of office BFFs (yes, even the crack‑head you never saw coming). Whether you’re here for pop culture, political shenanigans, or a crash course in race history, this episode has it all. #raceinamerica #trumppolicies #marvelvsdc #DigitalEquityAct #Workplacefriends #unsolicitedperspectives
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[About The Guest(s):]
Bruce Anthony is the host of the "Unsolicited Perspectives" podcast, recognized for his candid and humorous approach to discussing current events and social issues. He is joined by his sister, J. Aundrea, who brings her own sharp wit and perspective to the conversation. Together, they explore a range of topics, from pop culture and movies to workplace dynamics and political commentary, often drawing from personal experiences and lively sibling banter.
[Key Takeaways:]
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Bruce’s habit of using real-life stories on the podcast leads friends to withhold information, fearing their experiences will become show material.
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J. Aundrea highlights the importance of follow-up questions and jokes about men typically not asking them, leading to incomplete stories.
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The podcast is experiencing growth, with increasing YouTube watch hours bringing them close to monetization.
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While the show covers a variety of topics, it is not strictly political, though current events and politics are discussed, especially during election years.
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The hosts discuss the concept of "white refugees," challenging assumptions about race and migration, and hint at deeper conversations available in their YouTube exclusives.
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In the pop culture segment, they debate superhero movies, specifically Booster Gold and the upcoming Superman film, with J. Aundrea agreeing to see Superman in theaters due to Bruce’s persistent enthusiasm.
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Bruce compares Robert De Niro’s dual role in "Alto Knights" to Michael B. Jordan’s performances, ultimately favoring Jordan for now.
[Quotes:]
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"You really, really, really love mess and gossip. And so if people stop telling you stuff, I don't know how you're gonna survive." - J. Aundrea
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"I am the epicenter of my life." - Bruce Anthony
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"I'm gonna go pay and sit in a theater to watch Superman. Anybody that knows me knows that, that don't sound like me at all. But I'm doing it because you're gonna worry me to death if I don't. And that's just the truth." - J. Aundrea
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"Booster Gold is a character from the future...he's kind of like the Dion Sanders of superheroes." - Bruce Anthony
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"Entertaining but annoying." - J. Aundrea (about Booster Gold)
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"Robert, I know this was your attempt to win the Oscar. As of right now, boy's going to Michael B. Jordan, but we don't know what's gonna happen for the rest of the year." - Bruce Anthony
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"Don't bring it up...do not discuss that film until I've seen it and I contact you and I say, okay, I've seen it. Let's discuss." - J. Aundrea (on Superman)
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"We are locked in and...for those people out there that have been happy that we haven't talked politics for a while because we bombarded them all fall...we're not a political podcast." - Bruce Anthony
"I'm excited for Iron Heart. I feel like nobody is talking about it." - J. Aundrea
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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome to Unsolicited Perspectives 🎙️🔥💥
00:49 Sibling Happy Hour: Spicy Takes & Drinks 🍹🌶️
02:07 Dirty Dish & Juicy Gossip: Spill the Tea 🫖👀
06:21 Podcast Growth & Monetization Hustle 📈💰
10:18 Marvel vs. DC: Movie Madness 🎬🦸♂️🦸♀️
20:43 Political Circus: Trump’s Latest Facepalm Moment 🤦♂️
30:04 Offline Struggles: The Internet Desert of Rural America 🌾📵
31:48 1676 to 1776: How ‘White’ Was Cooked Up ⚖️🔍
36:17 Unpacking White Guilt & Privilege: Real Talk, Real Impact 🤔⚖️
44:48 Workplace BFFs: When Co‑Workers Become Family 🤝🏢
58:42 Real Talk on Race: Black Joy vs. White Obsession ✊🏿🔍
01:01:15 Don’t Ghost Us: Subscribe, Share & Join the Party 📣❤️
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Introduction and Welcome
Bruce Anthony: Racism in
in America, but not particularly
from.
and strange friendships in the workplace. We gonna get into, let's get it.
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Sibling Happy Hour Begins
Bruce Anthony: it's the sibling happy hour. I'm here with my sis, Jay, Andrea. We're gonna be dilly dad in a little bit, and then we're gonna be talking about Trump, talking about reverse racism [00:01:00] strange friendships in the workplace. that's enough of the intro. get to the show.
Bruce Anthony: What up sis?
- Aundrea: What up brother?
Bruce Anthony: I can't call it. I can't call it. I had an interesting conversation the other day.
- Aundrea: Okay.
Bruce Anthony: So people call it messy and I am that,
- Aundrea: Yes. But unlike males, I have follow up
Bruce Anthony: follow up questions.
- Aundrea: Okay. Running joke all across.
Bruce Anthony: that guys don't answer, ask follow up questions.
- Aundrea: Y'all never get the whole story? Never.
Bruce Anthony: be like, your
- Aundrea: Yeah. My boy got divorced. What happened?
Bruce Anthony: I don't know.
- Aundrea: Yeah, like don't start it because that's t. And if you don't have that whole cup for me to sip on, you just gonna piss me off. Yeah. Well, I [00:02:00] not,
Bruce Anthony: in a lot of ways, I'm not like the normal male, but, uh, 'cause I'm emotionally in, I'm emotionally intelligent.
- Aundrea: mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: a
Dirty Dish & Juicy Gossip: Spill the Tea 🫖👀
Bruce Anthony: friend of mine was telling a story of something that happened to them.
- Aundrea: Okay.
Bruce Anthony: And whether it's me being messy or the old journalist in me, I ask follow up questions and I kept probing and probing to learn more and more.
And then they stopped me. They said, you know
- Aundrea: Know
Bruce Anthony: I don't wanna tell you anymore. And I said, why? They said, because it's probably gonna end up on your podcast. They were like, I know that you're not gonna put my name
- Aundrea: out there
Bruce Anthony: but I know the story is gonna end up on your podcast. I was like, wait,
- Aundrea: minute, I don't. I don't,
Bruce Anthony: what to take from this.
- Aundrea: yeah, I've been telling you that.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Well.
- Aundrea: That eventually people gonna stop telling you stuff 'cause you keep using it as material. And that would be, that would be the end of you because you,[00:03:00]
you really, really, really love mess and gossip. And so if people stop telling you stuff, I don't know how you're gonna survive. So you might. You might just, you know, just use Reddit, just use other people's stories.
Bruce Anthony: But I, I think that people can't tell if it's somebody that I know, or if it's a Reddit store, a store that I just get from somewhere.
- Aundrea: No, because you always say, this is a friend of mine, but they dumb as hell. Uh, like, that's how you always started. So I mean. People who know you and know the people that you know are probably gonna be able to figure out who you're talking about.
Bruce Anthony: uh, I have so
- Aundrea: So many different
Bruce Anthony: areas of
- Aundrea: people know.
Bruce Anthony: don't cross
- Aundrea: Okay.
Bruce Anthony: know who I'm talking about. I,
- Aundrea: Okay.
Bruce Anthony: I wouldn't come up here and tell a story that people could be like, could put two and two together and be like, I know who that is. No, nobody. People don't really know me. [00:04:00] that
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: groups. Like there's nobody, I am the epicenter of my life. So
- Aundrea: Yeah, is everybody, is my
Bruce Anthony: There's never a
- Aundrea: situation where
Bruce Anthony: it's a group of
- Aundrea: friends,
Bruce Anthony: and I'm telling their business and they know each other. You know what I mean? Does
- Aundrea: right? Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: seemed like you weren't following me on
- Aundrea: No, it does. Um, 'cause I have different friend groups too, but like eventually they cross.
Bruce Anthony: They
- Aundrea: They do.
Bruce Anthony: but, okay, so I got one friend who never gets a story that I tell them,
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: mom giving directions,
- Aundrea: Right. That, that last turn. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I tell a story to, will always be like, remember when you told me a story about this, this, and this? I said, well, wait a minute. No, because that's definitely not how the story went. Yeah, it was, you said this. I said, no, that's, that's not what happened. You were com, [00:05:00] you were com mixing in two or three different stories and coming out with, with
- Aundrea: One story, that's not what happened. And so some people that stories about
Bruce Anthony: if, and there have been groups of people that met up for parties for me,
- Aundrea: right, they together,
Bruce Anthony: half the time, they
- Aundrea: they don't.
Bruce Anthony: all the stories that I've told. They wouldn't be able to put two and two
- Aundrea: Two together to figure out who, only
Bruce Anthony: only one
- Aundrea: know who
Bruce Anthony: about when I'm
- Aundrea: I'm talking
Bruce Anthony: is You
- Aundrea: a good amount of time. Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: my bestie. That's it.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: That's
- Aundrea: It, and I'm gonna tell y'all, I, I don't care. So you ain't got to worry about me knowing your business. 'cause I, I don't, I don't care.
Bruce Anthony: But the flip side to that is there are people out there give me that. Like, you use this on your show
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: And I'm like, and I don't, I don't wanna talk about that. [00:06:00] Well, what about this subject? I'm like, how am I going to talk about that for 20 minutes? It's very, that's very, very specific. I
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: how I can even broaden that
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I don't, it's a good topic. No, no, it actually isn't.
- Aundrea: No, no.
Bruce Anthony: I don't, I, I do need producers, but I'm not gonna go to you to be a producer.
- Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: I'm just not gonna go to you being a producer.
Yeah.
Podcast Growth & Monetization Hustle 📈💰
Bruce Anthony: Um, I got some good news. Okay.
know.
- Aundrea: Okay.
Bruce Anthony: Thank you to everybody who watches us on YouTube, because our hours are going up, up, uppity up, and we
- Aundrea: Awesome.
Bruce Anthony: just a smidge. Far away from being monetized on YouTube. So I want to
- Aundrea: That's amazing.
Bruce Anthony: Keep watching. 'cause
- Aundrea: Yes,
Bruce Anthony: monetized, I, I
- Aundrea: I,
Bruce Anthony: you to keep watching and
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: pads the ads. 'cause that's how we actually get paid is
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: need to be watched.
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: I know people don't like commercials.
That's [00:07:00] what they'll will be. But
- Aundrea: yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna be honest, I have YouTube premium so that I don't have to deal with that.
Bruce Anthony: we still get paid if people watch on YouTube premium,
- Aundrea: Okay.
Bruce Anthony: so that's, that's a good thing.
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: to thank everybody. The show is growing
- Aundrea: that is awesome because you, 'cause you know, you know, I ain't think we was gone. I was like, he'll get bored eventually, and he.
Bruce Anthony: this story like every, every 10 to 15 episodes. I
- Aundrea: move on. I don't know why I felt that, because you've literally been talking about this since before podcasts existed. It was, you wanted an internet radio show and, uh, it just never got off the ground. And then finally
Bruce Anthony: tried.
- Aundrea: Oh, okay. Well, did for some reason now you decided to try and so, yeah. And now we locked in and, and this is it.
Y'all gonna have to listen to us.
Bruce Anthony: We are locked [00:08:00] in and
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: know, for those people out there that have been happy
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: that we haven't talked politics for a while because we bombarded them all fall.
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: It was a. Politic themed show. You almost thought we was like, save the pod. Like
- Aundrea: Yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: are. We're not a political podcast.
- Aundrea: No,
Bruce Anthony: events and topics
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: so happened that we are in an election year and a lot of crazy stuff has been going on. Every now
- Aundrea: And talk about it. Talk about it sometimes.
Bruce Anthony: YouTube exclusive stuff
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: 'cause we just talked about the white refugees that, that are being
- Aundrea: Which literally sounds like an oxymoron, but, okay.
Bruce Anthony: I mean, no, no. Well, hmm.
- Aundrea: So.
Bruce Anthony: I'm gonna give a little brief history lesson of where the definition of white came from, in the second segment. But when you think of, when Americans think of white, there are so many Eastern [00:09:00] Europeans that are white, that are absolutely refugees. I have a friend who's Serbian.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Serbian now, but Serbia, I don't know if was always, I know it's a, it's broken up from the old Yugoslavia, I believe. the old Yugoslavia used to be a collection of different countries like Serbia, Croatia, I think all spawned from the old Yugoslavia, but absolutely
- Aundrea: You asking the wrong person. So I don't know. I think, I think that, I think it's the specifically. The, uh, south African whites when I know that they still control a majority of the land and the wealth in South Africa. So it's like, eh,
Bruce Anthony: a refugee when you, uh,
- Aundrea: don't make no sense.
Bruce Anthony: I know that that is, you know, that's a little difficult.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: that's on a YouTube exclusive, so like, we are not ducking
- Aundrea: Politic.
Bruce Anthony: not gonna put it on the main show all the time.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: it's, it's
- Aundrea: [00:10:00] It's about politics.
Bruce Anthony: what we're gonna talk about in the second segment, but it's way more
- Aundrea: More comic
Bruce Anthony: To
- Aundrea: to me than, yeah. I mean, this is literally your writing
Bruce Anthony: a sketch
- Aundrea: for idiotic.
Bruce Anthony: this is exactly what he would do.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Marvel vs. DC: Movie Madness 🎬🦸♂️🦸♀️
- Aundrea: Um, so it's funny, uh, Kumail, Nanjiani, uh, the actor. Uh, you probably know him
Bruce Anthony: What, what has he been in?
- Aundrea: a lot.
Bruce Anthony: That that was real specific. Thank you for, for breaking that down for me.
- Aundrea: Um, he was in, uh, what's that movie? The Eternals.
Bruce Anthony: Oh,
- Aundrea: I know exactly.
Bruce Anthony: who you're talking about. He was the character that
- Aundrea: that
Bruce Anthony: the head of Bollywood and Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Aundrea: Yes, yes.
Bruce Anthony: you're talking about. He might be the new Booster Gold they do a booster Gold movie in the DCU.
- Aundrea: Now, [00:11:00] what is that? I don't know what that means.
Bruce Anthony: Gold is a character from the future that that comes back in time.
And he is got all this. The reason why he's a superhero is because he is got all this advanced technology and he is coming back to be a superhero, but not a superhero in the sense of he's doing it to be good. He's doing it to become popular. So he's kind of like, he's kind of like the, uh, Dion Sanders. Of superheroes very um,
- Aundrea: Entertaining but annoying.
Bruce Anthony: bam, ba.
- Aundrea: Bombastic. Okay. Okay. Well anyway, he tweeted this, uh, Camille Najani tweeted this, and it's so apt for what we're gonna talk about next. He wrote, he's just so stupid. He's so breathtakingly stupid, that the above statement is all it takes for every person reading this to know exactly who [00:12:00] I'm talking about, and.
That is, that to me encapsulates this latest just glaringly stupid thing
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Yeah, it,
- Aundrea: that he is done.
Bruce Anthony: Uh, before we get into that, I do want to. Tell people that I did watch the Al, not Al Pacino, Robert Dero movie. Alto Saints. Alto Knights,
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: plays Vito Geneve and Paul Castellano. And I wanted to compare it to, 'cause he plays two characters like Michael B. Jordan does in
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm. He does a good job. Okay.
Bruce Anthony: as good as Michael B. Jordan? No. Is the movie as good as sinners? No. does he do a good job? Yes. When
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: the Mo movie, you could tell the two characters apart. Part of the reason is one, they have descriptive physical characteristics that kind of make them kind of make it so you can tell 'em apart, but the two [00:13:00] characters feel like different people.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Ro did a good job. I'm sorry, Robert, I know this was your attempt to win the Oscar as of right now. boy's going to Michael B. Jordan, but we don't know what's gonna happen for the rest of the year.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: the new trailer for Superman just came
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm. Okay.
Bruce Anthony: chat. I'm sure you did
- Aundrea: He, I didn't watch it, but, but I've already decided I am going to go see the movie. I'm gonna go pay and sit in a theater to watch Superman. Anybody that knows me knows that, that don't sound like me at all. But I'm doing it because you're gonna worry me to death if I don't. And, and that's just the truth.
Uh, you gonna worry me.
Bruce Anthony: so you said you, this is a preemptive.
- Aundrea: Yes. I'm just gonna go see it, so don't ask me. You gonna go see it? When you gonna go see it? You gonna see it? [00:14:00] Just, just don't EI will contact you after I've seen it and we can discuss it, but don't talk to me until I contact you and let you know that I've seen it.
Bruce Anthony: How am I not going to talk to you? You mean
- Aundrea: Don't.
Bruce Anthony: don't bring it up?
- Aundrea: Right,
Bruce Anthony: 'cause we talk like all the time.
- Aundrea: right. Yes. Don't break, do not discuss that film until I've seen it and I contact you and I say, okay, I've seen it. Let's discuss.
Bruce Anthony: right. Well, it comes out July the 11th, so
- Aundrea: Okay.
Bruce Anthony: time you think you gonna see it?
- Aundrea: Don't piss me off.
I don't know yet. Okay. I'll have an internship and summer class at that time, so I don't know yet, but I will go and see it.
Bruce Anthony: just because most of the time it's released [00:15:00] July the 11th, which is a Friday. Right. But you know, it comes out Thursday, you know, most time the, the late shows. And so it's a Friday
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Saturday and Sunday. You know, I can understand not wanting to go that, that, that first Friday and Saturday and Sunday.
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: the theaters will be packed, but
- Aundrea: right. Monday or Tuesday. Yes. I, well, again, I'll have an internship, so I'll be working during the day. No, no, I'm not gonna do that. Um, but I will probably go during the week to, to get it done. Yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Woo, please. I was on. Uh, okay. We are about to move to the next subject, but I just wanted to say, talk about this for a quick second. I was on the Twitter.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Because that's how I found out. I knew it was gonna be released today at 12 Eastern non-Pacific. But that's how I found it. What the, he did a, uh, James Gunn did a pre tease teaser to the trailer yesterday and, and he announced it on Monday that it was gonna be, the trailer was gonna be
- Aundrea: So there's, there are several [00:16:00] teasers out. Then he releases a pret teaser to the trailer. So it's teaser. Teaser. Teaser. Pre teaser. Trailer. Trailer.
Bruce Anthony: So he
- Aundrea: okay. He did a, he did a tease then trailer one. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: then a
- Aundrea: Tease trailer two. Yeah, between them.
Bruce Anthony: they did a dog food commercial, uh, 'cause it's crypto to superD dog, where they had a couple of more scenes
- Aundrea: Gotcha. Gotcha.
Bruce Anthony: or tease. So he is only done four things and the movie's coming out in two months.
So, I
- Aundrea: And, and, and here's what pisses me off, uh, because Marvel is not given that same energy to Iron Heart.
Bruce Anthony: Yes they did. They, the trailer just dropped today. I saw
- Aundrea: No, I feel like
Bruce Anthony: is a TV series.
- Aundrea: yes, that's what I'm saying. Like it's a TV series. It's gonna be a Dizzy Plus, and I feel like I have not seen enough. Also executive producer Ryan Kler. I feel like I have not seen enough previews [00:17:00] for Ironheart.
Bruce Anthony: It. They general, they, somebody
- Aundrea: Somebody sent it.
Bruce Anthony: this weekend and then the trailer dropped today. But that's not an even comparison. Okay. 'cause that's a TV series, what you could say. 'cause I think of weeks after, or the weekend or sometime in the, in the same month, the Fantastic Four
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: releasing from Marvel.
That's their big movie and I haven't
- Aundrea: Seen a whole lot of
Bruce Anthony: they are not
- Aundrea: doing.
Bruce Anthony: DC's doing. They don't have to because they're Marvel
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: up. But this is supposed to be like the Marvel's big, big movie next to Avengers.
- Aundrea: I feel like I've seen a lot of previews for Thunderbolts.
Bruce Anthony: This is not, I didn't say thunderbolts, I said Fantastic.
- Aundrea: No, I'm saying I feel like I've seen a lot of previews for Thunderbolts and I have not seen a lot for Iron Heart.
Bruce Anthony: put a lot more money into things that they think are going to be seen like fantastic. Four people are looking forward to it, [00:18:00] not me.
- Aundrea: No. I mean, they've literally, this is what the fourth iteration of it and it's never been good
Bruce Anthony: when Michael B. Jordan played Johnny Storm one
- Aundrea: and it wasn't that great.
Bruce Anthony: that movie was absolutely, it was the worst.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: It was the
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: but that was, Fox that did those. This is Marvel, so I mean,
- Aundrea: Okay.
Bruce Anthony: characters, but was Fox Studios,
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: so this is gonna be different.
And they got Pedro Pascal in it.
- Aundrea: I know. So I'm kind of looking forward to it just because I, I literally adore Pedro Pascal. Um, he's great. And also, Yon Moss Brock is gonna be thing. Uh, from the bear. Yes. But still it say, why are we doing this again? But I don't know. Maybe it'll be good. I don't know.
Bruce Anthony: they're, they're kind of, well, they brought back Robert, do jr. I, I don't know. I [00:19:00] hear what you're saying,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Ironheart, but I don't think that movie is, I don't even think that TV series is coming out until like August or
- Aundrea: No, I think it's like July.
Bruce Anthony: Are you sure?
- Aundrea: I think so.
Bruce Anthony: to look good. And if y'all don't know who Lionheart or Ironheart is, it's the black female Ironman. That's what she is.
- Aundrea: yes,
Bruce Anthony: she was in Wakanda forever.
- Aundrea: yes,
Bruce Anthony: so we excited to see that.
- Aundrea: yes.
Bruce Anthony: enough for our movie Roundup. I don't know why we did that.
- Aundrea: We just said, you know what? We just, we got stuck on it and, uh, it is what it is. But, uh, you know, executive produced by Ryan Kler. Just, I'm, I'm excited for Iron Heart. I feel like nobody is talking about it.
Bruce Anthony: as Superman like this, but that's understandable.
- Aundrea: Yeah, it comes out June 24th,
Bruce Anthony: Oh, well, okay. I was wrong.
- Aundrea: so,
Bruce Anthony: trailer.
- Aundrea: all right.
Bruce Anthony: All right. All right. On that note, let's [00:20:00] get into some political shenanigans
Bruce Anthony: jay Trump is a dumb ass.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: So there's an article out article is by Greg Ser, Sergeant. He is a, um. Columnist for the New Republic and the, the title of the article is Angry Trump Kills Woke Program and Accidentally Screws MAGA Voters. So what is this article talking about? The article discusses how, how, uh, president Donald Trump I.
In an effort to attack what he perceives as a woke government program move to
Political Circus: Trump’s Latest Facepalm Moment 🤦♂️
Bruce Anthony: terminate the Digital Equity Act, a bipartisan, bipartisan initiative designed to expand high speed internet across underserved areas, including many rural. Republican leaning regions Trump decisions based on the program's [00:21:00] inclusion of the word equity, and its supposed benefit to minorities, ironically threatens to withhold critical funding for his own base in the red state who stand to benefit from the for more improved internet infrastructure.
This move reflects a longstanding Republican pattern of using racially charged rhetoric to cut government programs often to the detriment to of their own supporters. So Jay, before you even got the rundown today, you said you heard about this. Um, what do you think about this?
- Aundrea: It's so unbelievably dumb
Bruce Anthony: Yeah.
- Aundrea: and this is how, um. White supremacy negatively impacts poor white people. There are many ways in which white supremacy negatively impacts poor white people, but this is like a glaringly obvious way, right? Like poor white people still [00:22:00] rely on government and social programs, whether it's healthcare. Access to internet. Just access to resources in general. Right. And then folks in rural areas still require social programs, government funded programs for things like, like this, access to the internet in an area where that is limited and. Because white supremacy really only cares about money and power. It doesn't really give a damn about poor white folks. But the fact that y'all still feel like you're included is the saddest part of this entire thing.
Bruce Anthony: So I'm going to get into the history of why they feel included. 'cause I [00:23:00] mean, it, it really truly does make sense when you understand the history. But I just want to give people the timeline of this whole decision. So Trump discovers there's a government initiative with the word equity in its title.
- Aundrea: Mm.
Bruce Anthony: He assumes it's a race-based program benefiting minorities.
He announces honest truth, social that he's terminating the initiative, calling it racist and decrying woke handouts. I, uh, so this is what we talked about when we said DEI is black means black
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: to these people.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: means black to these people. What's the, what's the other stuff?
- Aundrea: Uh,
Bruce Anthony: means black to these people,
- Aundrea: means black
Bruce Anthony: black.
All these,
- Aundrea: equality, fairness, justice. All of these things mean black.
Bruce Anthony: okay, so what does the digital. Equity Act actually do. Once again, it [00:24:00] was part of Biden's 2020 bipartisan infrastructure law, allocating over $2 billion for states to expand their high speed internet in underserved areas. So most people don't understand what that means if you're in a highly populated area like a major city.
You call the the local cable company, internet company. You call 'em up, you get high speed internet. I mean, you're going to pay through the nose for it, but you're going to get it. There are still some parts in this country, and this is no bull, some parts in this country that either use DSL or dial up because access to high speed internet.
The internet that you have on your computer right now that has given you the ability to watch this.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: They don't have. So Biden was like, that's unfair. We need to put as far as our in, in place and our infrastructure bill, the ability for everybody to have high speed internet. And you may think to yourself, why is it important education? Right? Like a lot of these kids were [00:25:00] being taught remote remotely during the pandemic and they didn't have the internet capacity to even do Zoom.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: So the funding is intended to cover all populations, including minorities, veterans, rural residents, and low income households, Republican led states who submitted proposals to access these funds aiming to benefit the rural populations.
So Republican governors are like, yeah, we need some of this money
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: to. Expand our internet. Many red states like Arkansas, Indiana, Ohio, Kansas, Alabama, Iowa, all voted for Trump
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: on these funds to improve their rural bro, their Mm. Rural broadband. Rural is a hard word to kind of say.
- Aundrea: is a
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Rural is a hard work.
- Aundrea: I usually just say rural,
Bruce Anthony: Well, [00:26:00] that's,
- Aundrea: Rural,
Bruce Anthony: yeah. No, but that's not right though.
- Aundrea: not the word.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah.
- Aundrea: I'm, I know that.
Bruce Anthony: Okay.
- Aundrea: But rural
Bruce Anthony: Yeah.
- Aundrea: to
Bruce Anthony: Rural is hard.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Trump's move could block hundreds of millions of dollars of funding harming rural and low income communities, many of whom are mega voters. So with this broader, I. The reason why I wanted to bring it up, the reason why I find it funny is because he equates, he equates equity with black, uh, thinking that it's racist because all of a sudden this country is racist against white folks.
Um, never heard of that in my entire life, but, but somehow
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: is now racist towards white folks and all these programs are racist because. White folks aren't benefiting from it. Mm. Rich white folks aren't benefiting from it, but a lot of poor white folks are.
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: this follows a long line in Republican verbiage, uh, like Reagan's Welfare, queen Queens or [00:27:00] Romney's 47%, or Paul Ryan's hammock metaphor, like they use, Republicans use these type of words to create division among the races
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: to.
Spark anger in their base towards other people.
- Aundrea: Yep.
Bruce Anthony: the reason why I find it so funny is because the people that are the angriest about it, not Trump, Trump doesn't really care. He knows that if he does this, it'll incite anger in his base, right? Which is a benefit to him.
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: people who are the actual angriest about it are the ones thinking that these programs are helping minorities and hurting them.
When. It's actuality, it's helping them.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: So
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I, you know,
- Aundrea: Yeah, in, in a, in a myriad of ways. So like you talked about education, but you also have [00:28:00] telehealth,
Bruce Anthony: yeah, I didn't even think about that.
- Aundrea: um, you know, economic development, access to government services. You know, if you, if you, if something happens in your state, and you need FEMA and you can't get on the website. To put your claim in. You know what I mean?
Like that, it, it, it, was specifically targeting rural residents, veterans and low income households. Yes. It also targets communities of color, but that was never the sole focus of it. Honestly, I think. The biggest gap as far as like the digital divide would be low income households, but, but particularly it would be rural residents,
Bruce Anthony: the flyover states.
- Aundrea: Just because geographically they have limited to, no access to high speed internet. Um, and there are a lot of [00:29:00] Republican states, like you said, like West Virginia, Alabama, Arkansas, that have already applied for. Or have received the grants from this program to expand rural broadband, and now those are at risk.
Bruce Anthony: And when people don't realize broadband is not quite cell cellular, but they fall kind of along the la same lines. So when you think that. Well, you expand broadband. That's just internet. It's also to help with cellular development. And why is that important? You're in these rural areas. The hospital is not right down the street.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: You have to call 9 1 1. You have to have good cell reception to be able to do those things. You are right with the I, I didn't even think about the doctor. Didn't even cross my mind. But to access certain social services,
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Social Security, they limited the number of people that were taking phone calls to social [00:30:00] Security offices, so you had to get on the internet to fill out information.
Offline Struggles: The Internet Desert of Rural America 🌾📵
Bruce Anthony: For a lot of these older people, boomers help, even some Gen X right? And older don't know how to really access the computer like that. They don't really know how to work the internet and if they. Don't know how to work the internet and they don't have good internet service, how are they gonna get access to these services?
So there's a bigger, there's a, there's a, I know most people that probably listen to the show. Definitely most people that listen to the show are in bigger cities. 'cause I can see the demographics. You're in bigger cities and you don't understand the concept unless you have family in rural areas, or you go out to rural areas for vacation or whatever.
You don't understand how bad the internet service is and.
- Aundrea: and if you, if you don't think that this is true, I don't know what you're thinking, but like roads and electricity, broadband is [00:31:00] an essential. Part of infrastructure
Bruce Anthony: Yeah.
- Aundrea: modern life, you have to have not only access to the internet, uh, quick access to the internet. And then people don't think about this, but. It's always on broadband. Internet is always on. You don't unlike dial up where you have to dial into the connection or whatever, it's always on. 24 7 is always available and at speeds where you can actually get things done in a reasonable amount of time. Like that is so essential that we honestly take it for granted.
But it is so essential. For in like a part of our infrastructure, a part of our modern infrastructure.
1676 to 1776: How ‘White’ Was Cooked Up ⚖️🔍
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, so you brought up earlier that, uh, you, you kind of couldn't understand how poor white folk would, would vote against their own [00:32:00] interests. And I said, well, there's a, there's a simple answer for that and in this, in history. So, and there's a simple answer for white, like the term white. I remember getting into a debate with this young lady when I was working at the bar, and she was like, why do you always bring up race?
And I said, I, I didn't bring it up. Actually, this country brought it up. This country is where race actually has, has been established. No, it's not. It's always been a thing. It's like, no, no, it hasn't. There were people that were from Spain, people that were from France, people that were part from different parts of Africa.
They were Africans or Spaniards or Italians or French. They weren't white. White or black. White or black. Started in America and she fought me on this and I said, okay, have you ever heard of the Bacon's Rebellion? She's like, what is that? I was like, we're right here in Virginia. You should know about it. I don't know about that.
So the Bacon's Bake Bacon, not Baker Bacon's Rebellion happened in 1676. It was a major uprising in [00:33:00] Colonial Virginia. This revoked united impoverished, European indentured servants, Irish people, and enslaved Africans. Against the colonial elite. The rebellion alarmed wealthy landowners who realized that solidarity among the lower classes, regardless of their European or African origins, poses a threat to their power to prevent future alliances between poor Europeans and Africans.
The colonial elite responded by creating a legal. Social distinctions based on race, they began to define white. If you're watching, I put it in quota quotations. If you're not watching, you're listening. I'm moving my little fingers in quotation marks. White as a privilege. Legal, yeah. Air quotes. Yes. They began to define, to define white as a privileged legal.
Category granting poor European certain rights and status [00:34:00] denied to Africans. This new racial hierarchy gave European laborers incentives to identify with the elite rather than enslaved Africans effectively dividing the lower classes and entrenching slavery and racial discrimination as the founding elements of American society.
The white race was invented by Rich Virginians in 1676. We don't bring up race. They brought up race, and that's the story of how people that identify as white, identify as white. Rich people realize that poor people banding together was a threat to their power, so they created a. Unnatural way to create straight division by saying white and black and giving privileges to the white while denying them to the black.
That's America.
- Aundrea: Yeah.[00:35:00]
Bruce Anthony: And what year did that happen again? 1676. What happened in 1776?
- Aundrea: Oh, uh, people got freedom.
Bruce Anthony: No, no. 1776.
- Aundrea: Isn't that Civil War constitution?
Bruce Anthony: The Constitution. Yes, yes. Yeah. Not the Civil War. The Civil War was,
- Aundrea: not Civil War,
Bruce Anthony: yeah. It was about 80 years later.
- Aundrea: the Revolutionary War. Uh, yeah. And some people got freedom.
Bruce Anthony: Literally 100 years later,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Americans, I. Well, people that lived in America essentially became Americans. But before that, for a hundred years, a hundred years before the Constitution was written, there were laws already defining what people could have and what people couldn't have, and it was based on this made up creation of race.
It's an American concept. Everything about this is an American concept. So when white people get upset and say, why do you [00:36:00] always bring up race to anybody that's a minority? Just come back and say, I didn't bring it up. You brought it up.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: This country has brought it up.
- Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: You weren't white until you, until it was convenient.
- Aundrea: I, I said this before and I'll say it again.
Unpacking White Guilt & Privilege: Real Talk, Real Impact 🤔⚖️
- Aundrea: I don't think there's anything white people hate more than being referred to as white. Um,
Bruce Anthony: Hmm.
- Aundrea: they see themselves right as, as the standard, as neutral, as normal. they are then confronted with the fact that they have a racial identity. So now there's this, there's discomfort, right?
Bruce Anthony: Hmm.
- Aundrea: Because of the negative connotations around whiteness. I mean, uh, a la uh, that understanding of systemic racism and white privilege, like now I have to be confronted with what whiteness means if [00:37:00] I acknowledge that I am white.
Bruce Anthony: And that's where the term white guilt comes from.
- Aundrea: Yeah. White guilt, white fragility, all of it comes from this uncomfortableness white people have with whiteness.
Bruce Anthony: You know what I, I never thought about it like that, but you're absolutely right. 'cause you know, I have more than a few white friends and the, almost all of my people I actually call friends are woke. Right. But even when I start to explain to them how, yeah, but you know, you got this privilege this way and this way, and this way.
They, they jump on the defense.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Well, no, but like, I'm like, oh, hold on now I didn't say you need to feel guilty about it 'cause you're an actual, you're actually an ally.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: yeah, you gotta, you gotta acknowledge all of this here. Don't, don't just.
- Aundrea: you can't call yourself an ally if you're not willing to confront those uncomfortable truths.
Bruce Anthony: I don't believe that that's true [00:38:00] because I consider myself an ally to a many communities, but there are still sometimes where I have a blind spot and I don't realize where my privilege or bias is playing into certain ways that I look at it. Even though I consider myself an ally, nobody is absolutely perfect.
- Aundrea: That's, you don't know. I'm saying, I'm saying when you're not willing
Bruce Anthony: No, it's not that they're,
- Aundrea: it.
Bruce Anthony: not that they're not willing,
- Aundrea: Well,
Bruce Anthony: that the initial reaction.
- Aundrea: it up and your initial reaction is defensive,
Bruce Anthony: I think that's a natural, Jay, I know you ain't talking about anybody's initial reaction being defensive,
- Aundrea: who's who?
Bruce Anthony: you. But guess you was the, you are the most defensive person I say before we get on here. Hey, I think you hit the echo cancellation button. I but didn't, but I didn't, but I did. I [00:39:00] say, Hey Jay. See, something's wrong with the sound. Nothing wrong with my sound. I can't hit Well, did you hit a button? No. Well, can you check?
All right, maybe I hit the butt. You naturally, anything
- Aundrea: not hit the button,
Bruce Anthony: I'm, I'm talking about in generalities here. You be getting defensive.
- Aundrea: no, that's,
Bruce Anthony: initial default is defend yourself.
- Aundrea: Yeah, because I know what I did do, and I know what I did not do,
Bruce Anthony: But there are some
- Aundrea: hit the button
Bruce Anthony: not
- Aundrea: don't
Bruce Anthony: May. Maybe this time you did hit the pun, but I'm saying your natural default is defense. That's a human thing. The natural default is defend oneself. So then you gotta take a step back and be like, all right, well wait a minute. Let me hear what you gotta say. And that takes emotional intelligence.
Not everybody has that type of evolved emotional intelligence to take a step back when they're being confronted about something. And be like, all right, okay. Maybe you got a point. Maybe you got a point. It's like those people that can't ever admit when they're wrong, even though they know that they wrong,
- Aundrea: [00:40:00] right. I,
Bruce Anthony: or people that just say, sorry.
- Aundrea: yeah. This also starting to feel very pointed, but I, what I am saying is if you want. If you want to be one of those, oh, I'm a colorblind white person, or you don't wanna
Bruce Anthony: Uh, yeah, I didn't say that.
- Aundrea: that comes with owning your whiteness and everything that it means. If you're not willing to deal with that, then you're not an ally if you're, because listen, when you bump up
Bruce Anthony: Not willing.
- Aundrea: when you bump, bump up against your blind spots. What do you do?
Bruce Anthony: Uh, initially sometimes I, I jump on the defense. Sometimes I do jump on the defense. I'm like, I'm an ally. What are you doing? And then I have to be like, let me listen to what this person is saying.
- Aundrea: That
Bruce Anthony: But, but
- Aundrea: difference. But there are
Bruce Anthony: I.
- Aundrea: are people who claim to be [00:41:00] allies who don't do that second step.
Bruce Anthony: Right. But you know what though? I've had people in my life call me to task for defending myself instead of listening. I had people that I respected
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: called me to task and I would take a step back and actually listen. Uh, not every, but that not everybody is like that. And that actually took years for me to get to that.
That's a new thing that just happened to last. Four, five years. So,
- Aundrea: there, but there are people who make allyship their identity
Bruce Anthony: true. True.
- Aundrea: when they don't know the first thing about being an ally, because being an ally is not something that you say. It's something that you do. I.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. This is true.
- Aundrea: Action forward.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, this is true. You ain't lying.
- Aundrea: And that includes self-reflection.
Bruce Anthony: Yes, you are right. A lot of times people wanna say they're an ally but don't want to do the work. Yeah, you're right. I can tell you who's not an ally [00:42:00] Trump in this entire administration. Good god, they
- Aundrea: close.
Bruce Anthony: that, oh my God,
- Aundrea: No.
Bruce Anthony: don't ha ladies and gentlemen, this is funny and not funny at the same time.
'cause this man is literally took equity and hurt millions of his own constituency. Millions of his own supporters because he thinks it's going to give something to black and brown people. That's what it is. 'cause he said it was racist. Those were his words.
- Aundrea: to be truly like transparent. They mean black. It's anti-black racism. They mean black. Like when they hear these words
Bruce Anthony: Yes.
- Aundrea: in their mind, they hear black people,
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, because they don't think that there's any programs out there that's giving benefits to brown people.
- Aundrea: no,
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. So that's it ladies and Jim.
- Aundrea: Asian people. They're not thinking about indigenous [00:43:00] folks. They're not thinking about no. They, when they hear these terms that they have decided in their mind are now. Now mean racially charged things when they don't. Equity is literally just, equity could be for anybody. Usually it it is, it's for everybody. That's kind of the point that it, equity is for everybody. Okay? They immediately hear black.
Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm. Well. Ladies and gentlemen, look, I painted out for you. I told you where the term white actually comes from. Came from here.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I told you why I was given its legal status is to put people against each other so that they can't rise up against the elite.
- Aundrea: Yep.
Bruce Anthony: And I showed you what he did.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: You still think this administration isn't racist if that's the point that you get from all this.
[00:44:00] I can't help you. Sorry. You can't be saved. Don't save 'em. They don't want to be.
- Aundrea: saved.
Bruce Anthony: You know, Jay, some people that have listened and watched this podcast know that we talk fondly very fondly upon our time working together and meeting lifelong friends
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: while working at Hard Rock Cafe right here in Washington, DC.
- Aundrea: Yep.
Bruce Anthony: Some of those people are even watching and listening to this show and supporters of us
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: 20 years.
- Aundrea: Yes, yes.
Bruce Anthony: I person that, uh, I met at Hard Rock was a groomsman in my wedding.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Workplace BFFs: When Co‑Workers Become Family 🤝🏢
Bruce Anthony: Just hit him up the other day. It was his birthday.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: two beautiful kids. Watching the show is a huge fan and it, it is, uh, crazy. [00:45:00] Of the friendships that you make in the workplace, the workplace will have you friends with any and everybody.
- Aundrea: Yeah. Yes, I, okay. When I, uh, was working for, uh, a company back in Maryland, one of my closest, closest friends in the office like a 60 something year old white lady, sweetest lady in the world. would knit at her desk, but that was my dog. Like I can't even explain to you like how much me and this lady with zero in common, this grandmother and me, I'm in my twenties, zero in common, I'm like, we are locked in.
Bruce Anthony: Like how locked in? Like gimme, gimme a [00:46:00] typical like interaction between y'all.
- Aundrea: about we go out after work,
Bruce Anthony: What?
- Aundrea: like me and this lady are friends, okay? Another coworker, a mom two. And again, nothing in common
Bruce Anthony: When you, this is when you were younger.
- Aundrea: This is when I was younger.
Bruce Anthony: Okay.
- Aundrea: in common with this woman. I know her mom. know the kids, her husband, she, she cooked dinner for me at her house. Like I done been to so many retirement parties and been turned up like it will literally, you'll be best friends with a old man named that you call Mr.
Otis
Bruce Anthony: Right. Yep.
- Aundrea: and Mr. Otis. 'cause he always got some story. always got something going on. I, and you'll be like, you look at that time [00:47:00] sheet and be like, Mr. Otis ain't coming in today. Bam. I was hoping Miss Barbara was gonna be here today. She ain't on the schedule. Oh.
Bruce Anthony: I, you know, I talked about it on a podcast, and I've talked about it on this podcast that in my younger years I was completely homophobic.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Completely homophobic,
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: with no real reason why, other than I was raised in a, I don't know, homophobic society.
- Aundrea: yeah,
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, that's, that's basically what it was. And working in the restaurant industry, I became friends with literally everybody.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: had a bus person that at, they were trans and favorite person in the entire world used to give them extra money. 'cause they used to [00:48:00] lookout for 'em. Like, yeah, we want, and we just chitchatting now. We never hung out, but, but to my credit,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: ain't hang out with. A whole lot of folks anyway. My thing is I'm gonna be friendly at work
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: then outside of work, eh, but I'm just like that with everybody.
- Aundrea: But
Bruce Anthony: But
- Aundrea: but it's not just like. I become friends with different people from all walks of life. You even have friendships that you ain't got no business having?
Bruce Anthony: because you have nothing in common?
- Aundrea: No, because like there'll be a crack head or something, but it'll be like
Bruce Anthony: Uh, no. I Wait a minute, what?
- Aundrea: you don't remember
Bruce Anthony: No, I, uh, a crack head,
- Aundrea: a literal crack head.
Bruce Anthony: uh, that we worked with,
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: I don't remember this, uh, who was a crack head.
- Aundrea: But I love them to death.
Bruce Anthony: A crack head,
- Aundrea: just was addicted to crack. Like that was, that was, you know, it's unfortunate.
Bruce Anthony: uh, whether a, a server bartender, [00:49:00] uh, cook.
- Aundrea: get specific. I'm not you, I'm not, we could talk off air, but, but
Bruce Anthony: I, I don't think,
- Aundrea: I know what you, I know what you do on your personal time,
Bruce Anthony: I may have not known that they was a crack head.
- Aundrea: You probably didn't know
Bruce Anthony: Oh yeah. I probably didn't know. 'cause I don't remember.
- Aundrea: also adored this person, so did I.
Bruce Anthony: Who now, oh my goodness. Now I can't wait to get off the a uh, if y'all are watching it, just stay at the end for behind the scenes. 'cause we gonna reveal that person
- Aundrea: we are not.
Bruce Anthony: who.
- Aundrea: are not. It does, it doesn't matter. The point is your job, your job be having you friends. With people literally from all walks of life,
Bruce Anthony: It really, it, it should let me ref it should. When you go to work, if you're not working in a small town where everybody's the same, so you're working in a big city and it's, it's [00:50:00] everybody from the city, different parts of the city might be working this one location, just like college in a way. It can introduce you to people from different walks of life, different backgrounds, different lifestyles, and educate you.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: that's what I'm saying it did for me, like coming from being this homophobic person to literally, it was in the span of two years. Right. Two, two years being this super homophobic person to go in to see Superman returns with one of my good buddies. That was, that was gay and his boyfriend.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Like, like, like that transition.
So
- Aundrea: It let, it lets you know people are people.
Bruce Anthony: yes, people if you take
- Aundrea: do a
Bruce Anthony: the time Right. No, I still, that is, that's going bug. That's going bug me. I'm gonna have to call our.
- Aundrea: I, when I say the name after this, when I tell you who it is, then you're gonna be like, oh, oh, yeah.
Bruce Anthony: I got a feeling. I think I know who it is, but I don't, [00:51:00] I don't think they smoke crack. I just think they was just eccentric.
- Aundrea: Then we not think of the same person.
Bruce Anthony: Did you actually see this person smoke crack?
- Aundrea: Why would I be around people while they're smoking crack?
Bruce Anthony: Did they say that they smoke crack?
- Aundrea: Listen, I know somebody else on crack. It's not that hard
Bruce Anthony: No, no, no.
- Aundrea: know when somebody's on crack.
Bruce Anthony: Hold on. And you said you was their friend. Did you hang out with them outside of work
- Aundrea: No, we
Bruce Anthony: just,
- Aundrea: out outside of work.
Bruce Anthony: you was just friendly at work?
- Aundrea: I adored this person at work.
Bruce Anthony: Oh, I, I can't wait to end this show so I can figure out who the hell this was because I, I need you to tell me. But yes,
- Aundrea: person.
Bruce Anthony: I, I have a friend of mine who talks about. How when they started their job, they were the young one and kind of had these mentors
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: that, that they made friends with and would go to retirement parties and stuff like that, and now they're, they're [00:52:00] in the position of where their mentors were.
I.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: And now they're mentoring the young folks and the young folks be coming to my friend for like real life advice. And that's part of the dynamic of these weird friendships in the workplace, that you meet these people that can literally tell you about life experiences that either you may get in the future or you may not even get in the future, but then you still know that people deal with this type of thing.
It's a, when you allow yourself to be. You can really open yourself up to a whole world of possibilities by being friends with your coworkers. If, if it's a social environment, like
- Aundrea: well it's important to never mistake your coworkers for friends,
Bruce Anthony: Mm
- Aundrea: Because how your business ends up in the workplace.
Bruce Anthony: true.
- Aundrea: know, have a clear boundary. Now I have. People that I used to work with [00:53:00] that are good friends to me to this day, including, uh, you know, my birthday trip to Panama two, two of our, our old Hard Rock buddies was, was on the trip,
Bruce Anthony: Two of them I thought was one of them.
- Aundrea: MM two.
Bruce Anthony: Oh, who was the other one? I gotta go back and look at the pictures.
- Aundrea: She used to work in the store too.
Bruce Anthony: I don't think I knew that person.
- Aundrea: Okay.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah.
- Aundrea: But, but, uh, yeah, just like while you are working with them, just, you know, re remember to keep a little healthy boundary there because you don't want your business at the workplace.
Bruce Anthony: you're real good at setting boundaries, so maybe give some people, give our audience the, some insight into what would be a pers, what would be a healthy boundary, how to determine if a person's just a coworker or if they are friend. I would say if you hang out with them outside of work.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: That's a clear friend,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: but if you only hang out with them and [00:54:00] chitchat with them during breaks at work, then maybe that's just a friendly coworker,
- Aundrea: That's a
Bruce Anthony: a re a friendly coworker.
- Aundrea: Yeah. You know, it's cool to go out for happy hour with your coworkers. Don't get drunk.
Bruce Anthony: Mm. Well, I mean, yes, but well, unless you're a bartender or in a restaurant business, you can go ahead and get drunk,
- Aundrea: Right. I mean, but you know, if you, if you incorporate,
Bruce Anthony: right? Well, no, don't do that.
- Aundrea: you work in a hospital, you know, like,
Bruce Anthony: Hey, them hospital people, be them. Hospital people are just like the restaurant business.
- Aundrea: it is not like Grey's Anatomy in the ho, is it?
Bruce Anthony: Yes.
- Aundrea: never worked in a hospital,
Bruce Anthony: I know a couple of doctors. It is. It is. Grey's Anatomy ain't far off.
- Aundrea: Oh,
Bruce Anthony: It is. Wow. It re
- Aundrea: damn.
Bruce Anthony: it's just like the restaurants, it's the restaurant.
- Aundrea: so much time, you know, those shifts are long. And the same with the restaurant industry. If you work a double you there all day.
Bruce Anthony: Mm. Literally all day.
- Aundrea: All day. So it's like. You know, you're spending so much time with these people and you really do rely [00:55:00] on each other to get your job done.
Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.
- Aundrea: it's important that the host is communicating with the servers, communicating with the kitchens, communicating with the managers, the bar, like everybody, the busers, everybody needs to be communicating.
So it's like you have to know each other, uh, or you're not gonna be able to get the job done. But, you know, just recognize who's a coworker and who's a friend.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. So how do people recognize which is which?
- Aundrea: You just said it. If you, if you have a relationship with them outside of work,
Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.
- Aundrea: is a friend. But if you, if it, even if y'all hang out outside of work, but y'all only talk about work, that's still just a coworker, that's not a friend,
Bruce Anthony: Hmm. Yeah, well,
- Aundrea: they have to know you. You, you have to know about them for it to be a friendship.
Bruce Anthony: you know, I haven't made any friendships from work [00:56:00] in about 15, 16, 17 years
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: my po my position at, at my current place of employment. I'm, I'm the boss,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: so I can't be
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: friendly. 'cause there's no equal level. There's nobody on my level, level that, that isn't a subordinate.
- Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Um, so that's weird. So I don't really make friendships from coworkers.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: do develop friendships with clients.
- Aundrea: Mm.
Bruce Anthony: even then,
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: there's a boundary there. Like I know more about their lives than they know about mine, but that's pretty much everybody in my life. Everybody I know about everybody's, I know about everybody's business, but don't nobody ever know nothing.
- Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: That's just me being close.
- Aundrea: I wouldn't consider that a friendship. Like there's gotta be [00:57:00] reciprocity.
Bruce Anthony: Uh, well, yeah. Okay. I guess so. I'm just a real private person. I was, I, I know people from this podcast wouldn't think that I'm that, but if you know me personally, you know I'm private.
- Aundrea: I'm not private with my friends.
Bruce Anthony: Hmm. Uh, what do you consider private,
- Aundrea: I'm not private with my friends.
Bruce Anthony: but what is considered private though?
- Aundrea: Like, you literally don't know what I do when you don't see me.
Bruce Anthony: Well, everybody knows. Everybody knows what I, what they, what I do when they don't see me. I'm drinking tequila and playing video games.
- Aundrea: Yes, but no. Right? Like, not, like, not really. Like they don't know. Who you are on a day to day. Like they don't, they don't know you,
Bruce Anthony: I think everybody knows my stances in life. I.
- Aundrea: do they know you?
Bruce Anthony: Ah, does anybody know anybody?
- Aundrea: Uh, my friends know me.
Bruce Anthony: Uh, well,
- Aundrea: They could accurately [00:58:00] describe me whether I agree or not,
Bruce Anthony: well, that's just 'cause they, people know your facial expressions. 'cause we, you know, we can't, we don't have no poker faces.
- Aundrea: talk to my friends,
Bruce Anthony: Oh. Well, I don't know.
- Aundrea: me.
Bruce Anthony: Well,
- Aundrea: and I
Bruce Anthony: mm
- Aundrea: with my friends.
Bruce Anthony: mm. That sounds like prison anyway.
- Aundrea: You are definitely no longer an anxious attachment. You are a definitely avoidant attachment
Bruce Anthony: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, I don't know when that transferred, but it happened within the last four, five years. Definitely. Definitely avoiding attachment. Definitely. Any who? That's
- Aundrea: yeah.
Bruce Anthony: enough about us. Jay, what do you wanna tell the people out there?
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- Aundrea: Look, ain't nothing wrong with being white.
Bruce Anthony: Nothing wrong with it.
- Aundrea: nothing wrong with being white. Y'all relax. Just relax. But also, there's nothing wrong with being black. I don't want you to be colorblind. I like being black. [00:59:00] You can see it. It's fine. I don't, I don't mind you. I don't want you to disenfranchise or oppress me because I'm black. That's the problem. It's not that you're white, it's not that I'm black. It's that oppression comes in. If we could pull that out, everybody could just be themselves and it would be cool.
Bruce Anthony: It'd be dope.
- Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Uh, to all my white listeners out there, they're just like, oh, was talking about race. Look, look, we're talking about things being done to us. We actually, legitimately black people in this country really don't care what white people do. Like we really, we're not in white people's business like that.
We, uh, we, we are just not, which baffles us. The reason why you always want to be in our business about everything.
- Aundrea: we looking up like what do we do now?
Bruce Anthony: Like, we can't even enjoy a movie. 'cause it's a, it is a black cast. Ooh. I don't know why they gotta have a black cast. 'cause when there's never any black cast, the default is always white.
- Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: anything that is not white that people see representation of themselves, they're gonna [01:00:00] gravitate to that same reason why white people are gravitating towards Kaitlyn Clark and Cooper.
Uh, flag you don't, I didn't talk about Cooper Flag. The Cooper flag is gonna be the number one draft pick in the NBA draft. American born white player, the first American born white player that's gonna be drafted. Number one overall since, I don't know, when Jack Sigma, and that had to be the seventies
- Aundrea: Damn.
Bruce Anthony: played for Duke.
The boy bad, the boy is bad. One of the announcers on the NBA. Uh. To talk show the other day, said that, uh, one, one of the analysts said, yeah, he's a whale. Speaking of like, it's a rare thing to get something like that. He's a whale. And one of the white commentators said, yeah, a white whale. And I said, no, he didn't just say that.
He just had a Freudian slip. Ladies, gentlemen, black people do not care about what white people is doing. We don't care.
- Aundrea: We don't.
Bruce Anthony: We, we literally don't, we just don't understand why you care so much about us. We don't.
- Aundrea: No.
Bruce Anthony: on that,
- Aundrea: it though. We're [01:01:00] cool.
Bruce Anthony: I mean, we cool as hell. I mean, who?
- Aundrea: it.
Bruce Anthony: I'm so happy I was born black.
- Aundrea: Listen, I.
Bruce Anthony: So happy.
- Aundrea: I struggle every day with being melanin deficient.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, you, not me. I'm getting darker right now as we speak. I know.
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Bruce Anthony: On that note, ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you for listening. I want to thank you for watching, and until next time, as always, I'll holler.
Bruce Anthony: So I was gonna be off of it for a little while, but, uh, had to, had to talk about politics.
- Aundrea: Ugh. Yeah, so I, I actually already heard about this story and I was like, does he not understand? He has a brutal ru rural constituent base.
Bruce Anthony: said, it said equity. So he equates equity with [01:02:00] black. So this is, this is what we get. Uh, and then I thought it was funny because we always talk about our love for hard rock and the friends that we made, but also in the workplace, you'd be making some strange friendships.
- Aundrea: I actually just sent somebody a meme where it's like your workplace be having you be best friends with a 65-year-old, and you'd be like, let me go ahead, go to Mr. Otis retirement party, or it was something like that. And then April sent me a message back. She was like, I got two retirement parties coming up.
Bruce Anthony: Oh,
- Aundrea: Be be your besties. They end up being your besties. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: All right, let me pin you. Uh, how am I gonna do this intro? Okay. Racism in America, not what you think. strange friendships. Yeah, that's good. All [01:03:00] you
I know you are leading. They're not giving the black woman some publicity.
Uh
- Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: I I don't think that's what that is.
- Aundrea: I have not seen nothing. Not on my Instagram timelines.
Bruce Anthony: has, has scaled back some of their marketing aside from Thunderbolts. I. They
- Aundrea: They didn't really advertise.
Bruce Anthony: that Star Wars TV show with the kids. I completely forgot about that. They
- Aundrea: Really advertise.
Bruce Anthony: and, or, I mean, they did, but they didn't
- Aundrea: Yeah, I feel like I didn't hear Jack about and or until Adam said something.
Bruce Anthony: mean, fantastic Four has not been all over the place like Superman has and, and I think they got another movie that's coming out this, this summer. Something. Oh, no. Um, Jurassic, the new Jurassic Park movie. I, it feels like I haven't seen a lot of advertisements for that.
- Aundrea: Why they doing that again?
Bruce Anthony: They always messing with the damn dinosaurs.
Leave the dinosaurs alone. They extinct for a reason,
- Aundrea: No, it, yeah, it got dumb to me when they [01:04:00] talking about, oh, this Veloc Raptor is my friend. No, you can't train a dinosaur. That dinosaur don't love you. It's a veloso raptor and it will kill you. I don't understand. No, I have connection with this Veloso Raptor. No. No you don't.
Bruce Anthony: I don't know what happened. I turned your echo cancellation on and somehow it's off. So I'm gonna stop this recording
- Aundrea: Okay.
Bruce Anthony: start it for the second round so we don't mess up the sound.
- Aundrea: Okay. I didn't touch it
Bruce Anthony: It was a big fight. Y'all missed it 'cause I
- Aundrea: and No. Fight the, the, the I said what? I said. I didn't touch it.
Bruce Anthony: Let's, let's get to this second segment so we can get to this shenanigans.
- Aundrea: Go ahead. I know what I did.
Bruce Anthony: We just stop talking when I do the countdown. Stop talking. This is
- Aundrea: I did. I wasn't looking at you.
Bruce Anthony: how you not let's go.
- Aundrea: [01:05:00] All right.
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