Are You Really Neurodivergent? ADHD Myths, Acting & DC Truths

Is your ADHD lived experience — or a self-diagnosis from Instagram reels? In this Sibling Happy Hour episode, Bruce Anthony and Jay Aundrea dive into neurodivergence, object permanence, time blindness, and the rise of ADHD self-diagnosis online. They unpack how living with ADHD impacts memory, relationships, and routines — from “out of sight, out of mind” object permanence to earworms and the chaos of time management.
The siblings also react to Clifton Powell’s take on acting boundaries, intimacy on set, and what it means to say no in Hollywood. Plus, a heated conversation about Washington, DC politics — from Mayor Bowser’s emergency operations to the feeling of a “mini occupation” and whether federalized policing is a solution or a problem.
Expect raw honesty, sibling banter, and thought-provoking debate mixing humor with real life. If you’ve ever wondered about ADHD, neurodivergence, acting ethics, or DC politics, this episode is packed with relatable insights and powerful perspectives. #adhdawareness #socialmediatrends #neurodivergentvoices #ActingBoundaries #unsolicitedperspectives
[About The Guest(s):] Bruce Anthony is a podcast host and speaker who focuses on social justice issues and current events. He is known for his candid and humorous approach to discussing important topics. J. Aundrea is Bruce's sister and joins him in this episode.
[Key Takeaways:]
- Christian nationalism is a form of white supremacy that distorts the teachings of Jesus.
- Jesus preached love, nonviolence, and humility, while Christian nationalists support violence and power.
- The church should focus on love, justice, and service to others, rather than promoting divisive ideologies.
- Separation of church and state is crucial to maintaining religious freedom and preventing the dominance of one religion over others.
- Space tourism, such as the recent Virgin Galactic flights, raises ethical questions and may not be worth the risks involved.
[Quotes:]
- "Christian nationalism is a tool of white supremacy." — Bruce Anthony
- "Jesus taught love, justice, and service to others, not violence and power." — J. Aundrea
- "The church should focus on the teachings of Jesus, not divisive ideologies." — Bruce Anthony
- "I'm pretty sure that's impossible. I'm not doing the second one." — J. Aundrea
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00:00 Welcome to Unsolicited Perspectives 🎙️🔥💥
00:59 Sibling Happy Hour: Sips, Laughs & Sibling Shenanigans 🍹😂
05:16 DC Politics: Mayor Bowser's Controversial Decision 🏛️👮♂️
11:25 Youth Crime: Reality vs. Media Perception 🤔📊
16:46 Black QBs Making History in the NFC East 🏈👊
19:57 Understanding ADHD & Neurodivergence: The Real Deal 🧠💭
21:17 Object Permanence: Out of Sight, Out of Mind? 🧠🔍
28:22 Relationships & Object Permanence: A Different Perspective 💭❤️
32:44 Living with Neurodivergence: Routines, Time & Keeping It 100 ⏰📝
41:11 Earworms: When Songs Get Stuck in Your Head 🎵🐛
58:24 Exploring Comfort Zones & Personal Boundaries 🎯💫
01:04:05 Wrapping Up: Final Thoughts & Takeaways 🎬✨
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Bruce Anthony: [00:00:00] A DHD. Neurodivergence and acting. We gonna get into it. Let's get it.
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Rate review, like, comment, share, share with your friends, share with your family. Hell even share with your enemies. On today's episode, it's the sibling happy hour. I'm here with my sis Jay, Andrea. We're gonna be dilly daning a little bit, and then we're gonna talk about a DHD and Neurodivergence, and then we're gonna be talking about acting and the roles that people play.
Sibling Happy Hour: Sips, Laughs & Sibling Shenanigans 🍹😂
Bruce Anthony: [00:01:00] But that's enough of the intro. Let's get to the show,
Bruce Anthony: what up sis?
Jay Aundrea: What up, Breta?
Bruce Anthony: I can't call it. I can't call it. You did something interesting. Literally right before we hopped on here and started recording.
I was on your, IG stories
and you made a little comment about the mayor of Washington, DC
Jay Aundrea: Oh,
I.
thought you were talking about the posts where all the quarterbacks in the NFCE are starting quarterbacks are black.
Bruce Anthony: No, but we can talk about that as well.
I wanna talk about, I mean, it's all DC centric.
Jay Aundrea: it's all d Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: this dilly ding, it's DC centric, but,
How you feel about the, the mayor of Washington DC right now?
I.
Jay Aundrea: I don't know. Kind of seemed like a op. Here's the thing. I, I know she's Mayor Muriel. [00:02:00] Bowser is in between a rock and a hard place. Essentially, right? Like she's got to protect the city and she's gotta do it under an authoritarian fascist regime,
Bruce Anthony: Tell me how you really
Jay Aundrea: right? So it's not great. Okay. So. Basically her latest executive order. It was to keep local operations in step with the federal takeover, right? So she's establishing the quote, safe and beautiful Emergency Operations Center. I am pretty sure she did not come up with that name. And the reason why I know is because the word beautiful is in it. And we all know that the carrot in chief. Loves to put that in the name of his bills and, you [00:03:00] know, operations and things like that.
Bruce Anthony: He likes to put elementary adjectives
Jay Aundrea: yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: and anything he's describing.
Jay Aundrea: yeah, so basically what it is, is she'll be coordinating with federal agencies and she framed it as a transition plan to signal the end of the, the emergency. He called for the city, which even though crime is down, so I don't understand what the emergency was or why that emergency required. Federal agents and National Guard troops to be at the Shake Shack and Union Station, but Okay. Don't know where the crime's occurring at Union Station, but Sure. So hopefully that will end by September 10th, but. You know, only according to, [00:04:00] it might be Politico, about 17 to 20% of DC residents support federalized policing, right? Most people argue against the continued presence of like National Guard troops, which like I said, are often in like these tourist zones, right? There's really no, like, there's nothing going on in the city that like legitimizes this military occupation. So I, I, I, okay. She's supporting this emergency facility and continued coordination so that she could hopefully normalize, you know, city operations. Like she said by September 10th. So still to me feels like a op. 'cause I feel like there are other, [00:05:00] you know, local officials we can look at Gavin Newsom, right? And like all of the Trump trolling that he's been doing and, and the legislation that he's trying to pass to counteract the gerrymandering in Texas.
DC Politics: Mayor Bowser's Controversial Decision 🏛️👮♂️
Jay Aundrea: Like there, I feel like. There are other leaders, like local leaders that are really pushing back on this and
it fe and it feels like
she's taking a knee.
Bruce Anthony: it is apples and oranges, and
I'll tell you why. It's apples and oranges. Newsom is a governor. She's a mayor of a city in which.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: The federal government
controls that city's budget. Not saying that the mayor of DC is a figurehead, but they don't have a tremendous amount of power because there's so much federal land that DC has the legislative body Congress and the city has a lot of [00:06:00] control over dc a lot,
a tremendous amount.
There's the reason why Trump is able to do this, because there's so much federal land. He's able to say, well, no, I can go protect this 'cause that's under my purview. He's kind of almost right now, mayor Bowser, there's been some stuff over her tenure that she is pro-police and nobody is anti-police
Jay Aundrea: No, we need law
Bruce Anthony: Right. But she is, she is almost like back the blue type.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: She has a history of these type of things, so this kind of falls in line with little voter policies. Remember, she's a DC Democrat.
DC Democrats tend to be moderate, not liberal. These were the same people that pushed for the 1994 crime bill. So this is not something new.
We're DC Democrats, [00:07:00] dc The people that are in the city council, not everybody, but the people that in the city council, people that are represented in, in Congress from dc, they tend to be a little bit more moderate. Hey, let's get this crime down
now. Is there a reason why DC should be militarized? No.
but there are instances where these kids are wildling out
and though they're not an everyday thing when you're older, something happens in us when we become fearful.
When we were young, we weren't afraid of nothing.
When we get older, we get a little bit more fearful and almost nothing scares me more as in people. Then a bunch of little youngins
Jay Aundrea: Yeah. Yeah. But the problem it, it would mean something if these National Guard troops and federal agents were actually reaching vulnerable neighborhoods, but they're
Bruce Anthony: then they're not, they're not placed in those [00:08:00] neighborhoods because once again, they had to be placed sort of near federal land, so he can't just disperse 'em throughout the entire city.
Jay Aundrea: Is that, is that the case? I
Bruce Anthony: Yes. I mean, they're parked up at like Union Station. They'll be in like the Metro stops. They're they're not, they're at the mall.
You know, they're
not,
Jay Aundrea: then
there's no,
Bruce Anthony: the city.
Jay Aundrea: right, so then if they can't even. Address, you know, vulnerabilities in high crime areas, which
these
areas then, then there's literally no point in them being there and then, and so
Bruce Anthony: Yes. Hold on. Yes and no because kids can wild out. Look, Pentagon Mall, which is actually in Virginia, was shut down I think at the beginning of summer. 'cause kids were in the mall while now in a big fight happened. They literally shut down [00:09:00] the mall. And
the mall is across the street from the Pentagon. They shut down the mall.
So these kids, I, I mean, they're just,
Jay Aundrea: Then how about we fund, oh, I don't know, social programs, outreach programs? How about we put all of this money, the money that we're wasting,
deploying National Guard troops and federal agents? Why don't we put this towards programs or social programs and things like that to help give these kids something else to do? Programs that we know work because we see them working in other cities.
Bruce Anthony: there's, there's some people in the city who will say they do put a lot of money in these programs that there are boys and girls clubs, that there are YMC. There are things for kids to to do, but I guess. A lot of the kids, not even a lot. I don't even [00:10:00] know what the percentage of the kids are. I just know when something does happen, it looks to old people eyes like the world is coming in to an end and there's no control.
But this is few and far between. It's like, this is a bad analogy, but an analogy that you guys can deal with, and I'm not comparing kids to dogs, but anybody that has a dog owner that's house trained. Every now and then they're gonna have an accident in the house. Right. It is few and far between when they actually do, and nine times outta 10, it is the owner's fault.
But even still, sometimes dogs have accidents. Well, that, that kind of relation, as far as frequency could be compared to how these kids are well out. It's not a, it's not an everyday thing. It's not every weekend thing. It's not even, I would say once or twice a month. when it happens, you are like, oh shit, this is a big deal.
But it really isn't. [00:11:00] It's not a big deal. This is
not some epidemic, you know? It is an epidemic. School shootings
that's an epidemic. Kids while in out is not an epidemic. It is scary to the older individuals. 'cause if it's, if it's intimidating to somebody like me, I know Joe Schmo in Middle America. Is gonna be absolutely terrified.
Youth Crime: Reality vs. Media Perception 🤔📊
Bruce Anthony: So it's a reaction to, to these things,
Jay Aundrea: Yeah. No, I don't, I don't dispute the, like the surface. Basis
for it. Right. The, the, the the talking point cause of it, right. Of why they sent the, we all know the actual cause is he's targeting democratic
cities with, and, and the problem with this executive order that she signed is. It is, it's, it's like a tacit acceptance
of federal [00:12:00] control over local policing, and it's gonna set a really bad precedent for other cities that are pushing back against him.
Threatening to send federal agents and and National Guard members to their cities.
Bruce Anthony: Yes. No, I absolutely agree on that. It, it's a bad look, but devil's advocate, what if she actually believes it? She's, if she's in a tough position, if she
Jay Aundrea: she's not
then, but she's, but, but she is not in line with her constituency.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Okay. Well, yes, that's true. That's true. By and large. Yeah, you're right. So, I don't know. Look, I, I, I actually haven't stepped foot in the DC City limits, aside from rocking on a metro.
Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Like I, I kind of don't go into the city that often anyway, to go party and stuff like that. 'cause as soon as you step outside in the city, it's $750.
[00:13:00] But from what I hear, 'cause I talk to people who live in the C City all the time. It doesn't quite feel like an occupation, but it kind of does. It's like a mini occupation. I mean, it's like mini, right?
Because it's in, it's a show of
force, literally.
Jay Aundrea: now,
Bruce Anthony: well yeah. Yes, they have been for a couple weeks now.
It's
literally a show of force for those tourists that are coming into town
because people that live in the city, by and large feel absolutely safe. I mean, don't get me wrong, you might have your brushes with crime, but you're gonna have your brushes with crime, and then you made your metropolitan city.
But more than more or less people feel safe. It's those tourists. It is those two and we have it. I mean, Washington, DC I see them truckloads of people coming into the city all the time, and they're in those high traffic areas in Washington, DC They're all at the mall smelling like boiled [00:14:00] corn beef.
Because it's hot during the summertime
Jay Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: and sweaty and they're on the metro
and they don't know how to walk on the escalators properly. And
they're ruining my good city, but it's, it's for them. And you're right, this does give a bad look 'cause he's, he's. Ben on his true social saying, you know, mayor Bowser is, is, is with us.
You
know, just don't do those woke policies again. And then it's like, ah, you know, it's kind of like when you're saying something and your op is agreeing with you and you are like, mm,
Jay Aundrea: Yeah. I said
Bruce Anthony: I, yeah. I don't want you agreeing with me. Can you
not agree with me? Can you not back me up on this one?
Jay Aundrea: and I feel like the term woke just means anything in opposition to Trump. Like it is all, it's lost, all like racial relevancy to me because now they're just saying anything's woke,
Bruce Anthony: Well,
the [00:15:00] people that feel, the people that use the word woke are part of the privileged here in this country. Okay. And when the privileged are faced with equality for the privileged, it looks a lot like oppression.
Jay Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: So yes, they're going to, they're going to attack Cracker Barrel, they're gonna attack Superman, they're gonna attack anything that's different, that's automatically woke.
And I just laugh at it now because you sound real ignorant. You know,
like a person that uses a big word, but is clear that they don't know the meaning of the word.
Don't know how to use it in the right context.
And they try to use them all the time. You just say, you know what, I'm not even gonna correct you this time.
Just go ahead and keep talking stupid.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: That's how I feel about that. But also the Washington Commanders starting a black quarterback,
Jay Aundrea: Yep.
Bruce Anthony: the New York football Giants starting a black quarterback,
the Philadelphia Eagles [00:16:00] starting Your Love, a black quarterback
Jay Aundrea: Jalen hurts.
Bruce Anthony: and the,
Jay Aundrea: you tomorrow Against the Cowboys.
Bruce Anthony: the Dallas Cowboy. Oh, that's the game tomorrow.
Okay.
And the Dallas Cowboys starting a black quarterback, the NC East.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah, it's a, it's, it's very exciting. It's unprecedented and very exciting, so yes.
Bruce Anthony: You know, and they all good too. Ain't none of them bad.
Jay Aundrea: Ain't none of 'em bad.
Bruce Anthony: Well, actually, I don't know about that quarterback for the Giants. I don't know about that. I'll
find out
tomorrow. Oh, it's, it's, well, Russell Wilson's been washed for a while, but I'll tell you what, I'm going listen to cece's new album, ce.
Jay Aundrea: Well, well, that goes without saying. I've been, I've been a Sierra fan since Goodies.
Bruce Anthony: She's still fine. Sierra,
Black QBs Making History in the NFC East 🏈👊
Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: girl. Whew. You
Jay Aundrea: Four kids later.
Bruce Anthony: She got four.
Jay Aundrea: Four,
Bruce Anthony: How many by future?
Jay Aundrea: one.
Bruce Anthony: Okay.
All
Jay Aundrea: Yes. Yeah, she, two boys, two girls [00:17:00] three with Russell, one with future, everybody, of course, future Junior. But yeah, like, yeah, she's still that girl to me,
period.
Bruce Anthony: Russell's a little washed, so
Jay Aundrea: We'll see what
happens. we'll see
Bruce Anthony: happens, but
Jay Aundrea: have been struggling for a little bit, so we'll see what happens.
Bruce Anthony: I don't know. I'm actually gonna pay attention to football this year. It'll be the first time in like five years
that I'm actually gonna, or I'm gonna attempt to pay attention. Who knows? We film on Sundays and then when I'm done, I, I, I normally forget.
I'm like, damn, it was football that's on. And I
Jay Aundrea: Yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Saturday there was football.
Jay Aundrea: I'm trying to get into college football. I just watched, it's a Netflix like documentary special. I think it was like, it's called Any Given Saturday maybe or something like that.
And it was about the SEC.
Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.
Jay Aundrea: not SECZ,
Bruce Anthony: Nah, you said it right? That's how we said it.
Jay Aundrea: That's how you say it,
SEC. [00:18:00] But yeah, and it kind of got me, I was like, okay, well now wait a damn minute. You know, I live in the south.
Maybe, maybe I should, you know, follow, i, I keep hearing people randomly yell, roll tie, and I don't know what the hell that means,
Bruce Anthony: as for the Alabama rolling tide, I'm surprising, but the Florida game
is a huge rivalry game, and they have a big party
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Geor. The University of Georgia isn't far from you, right? It's
like an hour.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah,
Bruce Anthony: Got to, got to tailgate. You got to get some folks out there that know how to tailgate and go
out there and tailgate and go see
some, go see some college football.
I like college football better than NFL 'cause the atmosphere is so
Jay Aundrea: It's so
electrical. Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: It's a little
Jay Aundrea: It, it is nothing like rooting for your school
because it's, you have more of an investment than like rooting for your team, like an NFL team because, you know, I didn't use to [00:19:00] play for the Eagles. I
don't have an
investment in it. Sometimes people,
take it a little too serious.
I mean, but that's sports in general, but like. But if it's your school, like it's your, the school you go to, or, you know, it's just, you feel more of a connection to it. And these kids, man, they, they be having a good time. So I'm trying to get more into, plus, you know, you gotta keep an eye out who's Suzy Next draft pick.
So you gotta,
Bruce Anthony: I can't pay attention
to all that.
Jay Aundrea: get into it a little more
Bruce Anthony: I always tell people what is fans short for?
Jay Aundrea: fanatics.
Bruce Anthony: That's right.
Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: And fanatics be extreme,
hence fanatic.
Jay Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: Speaking of fanatics, there's some fanatic people on social media that are just taking any and everything and throwing it under a DHD and neo divergence. And they're getting it all wrong.
And
Understanding ADHD & Neurodivergence: The Real Deal 🧠💭
Bruce Anthony: we're gonna talk a little bit about it [00:20:00] next.
Bruce Anthony: RJ Neurodivergence. I've had interviews with several people that have neurodivergence. You
have neurodivergence. A couple of our family members have neo divergence.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah
Bruce Anthony: Some would say that maybe I do some,
Jay Aundrea: some would say.
Bruce Anthony: some would say,
well, we're talking about this because you have been saying that I have a DHD for the longest
and would give me reading material.
And I would be like, Jay, I don't fit half the stuff up in here. And you're like, yes, you do.
And sometimes people can say things to you and it'll register and then sometimes it won't. Sometimes the things that people say were registered later, and this was a prime example. One of the prime examples of [00:21:00] me realizing, you know what, you might be right, I may have a DHD is because of object permanence.
Now I think that's how you said the word.
This is very hard for me.
Jay Aundrea: permanence,
Bruce Anthony: Like
I said, permanence,
it's, it's, it's just like a weird word, but.
Object Permanence: Out of Sight, Out of Mind? 🧠🔍
Bruce Anthony: What is it? It's the understanding that objects continue to exist even when they are not visible heard or directly. Since most people don't have an issue with object permit per with op,
Jay Aundrea: Just like, like permanent
Bruce Anthony: no, I'm just gonna call it
- From here out it's OP From here on out.
Jay Aundrea: All right.
Bruce Anthony: Op adults most often manifest as part of an everyday memory attention processes. But in those with A DHD challenges with object. Op. OP are common though, not an officially recognized symptom and in clinically diagnosed criteria. So just because you have
Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm. [00:22:00]
Bruce Anthony: necessarily mean
that you,
Jay Aundrea: issues with object
Bruce Anthony: yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're narrow, divergent, because.
Adults generally adults typically display strong op, meaning they remember and act on the existence of people, tasks, objects, and commitments. Even in those things are not present or immediately visible. This allows a person to plan ahead, maintain relationships, and keep track of responsibilities such as appointments, bills, and personal items.
A lot of people are hearing that and be like, yeah, that's me. Yeah, I'm not really talking to you.
Okay. What I'm talking to is how it shows up in people that have a DHD, and this is when you were, I think it was you that brought this up.
Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: Somebody brought it up and it made me think and I was like, Ooh, maybe my sister is right.
Because how OP shows up in people that adults that have a DHD is, they often experience [00:23:00] challenges. It's described as almost like an outta sight out of mind type of situation. This is mostly related to difficulties in working memory and attention regulation, not a fundamental inability to understand existence.
Some ways in which this shows up. Forgetting about task appointments or chores unless they are visible or prompted, losing track of items, even important ones, if not kept in obvious places. Failing to maintain contact with people who aren't present, leading to strained relationships. Now that, or struggling to follow through on commitments unless regularly reminded.
Now it's that third one for me.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: There have been so many women that I've dated. And you go out on a couple dates and you're having a good time, and I guess you're actively going out on dates. And then I disappear on them
Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: and now we get called out for it. I would get a text, hey, and I'd [00:24:00] be like, Hey, what's up?
You'd be like, where have you been? I'm like, what the hell you
talking about? Like I've been right here,
like I haven't heard from you from two months. I was like, what are you talking about? I just talked to you like the other day.
Scroll back through the text messages and literally it's been two or three months
and I just didn't realize that it's been that long.
It comes off as I don't care, and in some instances, ladies, I didn't care, but there were times where I genuinely liked the person
and it was outta sight outta mind. Not that I didn't care. It's just like if they're not right there in front of me or there's something to remind me of them right there in front of me, I get sidetracked
and they just disappear in life.
And I talked to somebody in our family and they said, yeah, I do that all the time. And I'm like, oh yeah, this is hereditary
and I know you make a strong concerted. check in with people so that this does not happen for you.
So it was in this moment that I realized, you know what, Jay, I may have a DHD [00:25:00] because this is a routine problem with not just people I date with my friends, with family members
that are consistently calling me out.
You disappear and it's just like I have, I just, I just saw you the other day.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Bruce has been six months.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah. So yeah, I do have issues with object permanence. So for me, you'll see like my desk will be covered in sticky notes, right?
Because I need. Different tasks that I have to do or reminders and things, they have to be visible. They have to be right there in front of me or I will lose track of them. I, I lose things all the time, so I have to put everything in very obvious places, just like you said, so that I can see them. If I can see it, I won't lose it. I won't forget about it. And it's, it's, it, it, it was really hard for me to come to terms with the fact that what object permanence means in [00:26:00] terms of my relationships is that I don't miss people, and it sounds horrible.
It, it really was hard for me when I first like came to that realization of like, if I don't, if someone is not in front of me in my presence, or somehow I'm prompted to remember them. Then it is out of sight, out of mind. And so, because I know that this is a part of just the way my brain works and you know, there's nothing that's just a natural neurodiversity is just a natural part of just being a human right.
It's human diversity. So I know that this is a part of, a part of how my brain works. And so I have to come up with ways to compensate for that. So I will put reminders in my phone to follow up with somebody. I will put you know, notes everywhere, write things down, keep [00:27:00] things in multiple places on multiple calendars and things so that I gotta see one of them.
You know, I put a note for myself up under the bathroom sink. Gotta look there. I'm out of toilet paper. So it's like, you gotta, you gotta think of, that's a little nod to hustle to what was it, upstairs? Fifth flow, bruh. Man. That's right.
Yeah.
But like, you have to just work things in a different way because your mind just works in a different way.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, so it's crazy 'cause you've said that before. Like, I don't miss people and like I don't miss people either. And, and it is not because I don't care about 'em. 'cause when I see them.
Jay Aundrea: All of it comes
Bruce Anthony: with all of it comes back and it's
like, oh yeah,
that's right. I love you. But, but I don't miss them because of
this, because of op.
And a lot of people take that the [00:28:00] wrong way as if I don't care about them.
And it's, And it's, not, it's not true. You know, and I, I've lost friends and women that I've dated.
Because they think you just don't care. And they're like, I do care. Like I'm telling you, I care. You don't really show it. I show when you're around, but when you not around outta sight, outta mind.
Relationships & Object Permanence: A Different Perspective 💭❤️
Bruce Anthony: And I, and this, the more and more I learned about OP and the more and more I did research, it explains so much relationship that I've ever had. I'm talking about romantic relationships, every relationship I've ever had, I didn't necessarily miss the person.
It was the routines that we had.
So if I was dating a woman and she came over every Wednesday night to spend the night, Wednesday night into Thursday when we broke up, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
If we
didn't have set routine days where we was doing stuff, I wasn't tripping. [00:29:00]
It would come hitting me. On a Wednesday when that routine was off.
So I didn't necessarily miss the person, I missed the routine.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: But didn't mean that I didn't care about the person,
Jay Aundrea: Yeah, I,
Bruce Anthony: in routines,
Jay Aundrea: I care about people very deeply and I know that when I finally see them
again, but it, it, but just, it's just the way my mind works. I, things have to be right in front of me
or somehow prompted, somebody will say, you talk to so and so in a while, and they'll be like, you know what? I haven't. Let me give them a call.
You know what I'm saying? So like, it, it'll, it'll be things like that. But I, I make a concerted effort because I realize that I, I've lost a lot of friends and I've had like you, like you issues in relationships because it seems like I'm not communicating, but the truth is, I just forgot you existed, which sounds even
[00:30:00] worse.
Bruce Anthony: even worse.
Jay Aundrea: It sounds even worse.
but like, you know, life will get going, things will start happening. And I forgot to text this person and yeah, it has been two weeks and I'm sorry because I also have issues with time. Right. And time blindness that I don't realize that two weeks, three weeks have gone by
since I last.
Bruce Anthony: blindness is.
Jay Aundrea: So time blindness is another common neurodivergent disorder or, or, or symptom, right? And it's basically you have a difficulty, in the way you perceive time. So. You underestimate how, or, or you underestimate how long stuff should take,
right? A task or something, you're like, Hey, I'm just gonna hop in the shower real quick.
I'll be out, I'll leave in about [00:31:00] 15 minutes. Well, by the time you get out the shower, 45 minutes have gone by. So, but you don't realize that because you, you don't perceive time in the same way. So sometimes it feels like it's gone by fast. Sometimes it feel like it's gone slow. Sometimes you don't even. Have a sense of the passage of time.
So you know, you, you have of course issues with time management, losing track of time, things like that. So I, I have. Issues with object, permanence, and time blindness. So if I don't see you and I don't contact you, it could be a long time before I'm prompted or I see you post on social media and then boom, I remember you.
So that's another reason why I, I do check my social media every day because it also helps me remember people.
I see their pictures, I see their posts. It helps me [00:32:00] remember, I'll reach out, I'll see it, send a DM, or I'll send a text. So that I can keep that relationship up, so,
Bruce Anthony: Oh, if it wasn't for social media. 90% of pe, 90% of the people in my life would never hear from me,
like, would never hear from me unless they contacted me.
'cause it's, it's just like, oh, I forgot about this person. Let me, let me, it
literally, it will be, I forgot this person
that I care about.
Jay Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: forgot about 'em.
Jay Aundrea: Care about deeply.
Bruce Anthony: Completely forgot about
Jay Aundrea: And I realized, oh, I have not talked to them or engaged or actively participated in this relationship in quite some time, and I need to get, I need to get my stuff together.
Living with Neurodivergence: Routines, Time & Keeping It 100 ⏰📝
Bruce Anthony: So I'm kind of bringing this up. We're gonna get into something else that that affects people that are neurodivergent, but I'm bringing this up for several reasons. One, people need to stop self diagnosing themselves on social media.[00:33:00]
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Just stop.
Okay. Go to go to a therapist
If a therapist diagnosed you with neurodivergent, whatever those things fall under them.
Brenda, because it's a lot A-D-H-D-O-C-D. Autism. There's a lot.
If a therapist, a licensed doctor
says that.
Jay Aundrea: OCD is a neuro
Bruce Anthony: Yep. OCD is a neurodivergent. Yep.
Jay Aundrea: Hmm.
Bruce Anthony: OCD is a neurodivergent If, if somebody licensed says you are cool. Stop. Pan, stop listening to these people on social media. That's, that's included.
Stop listening to our people on social media and, and doc. Well, not don't stop listening to
us, but don't take our work. Don't take what we give you, even though it's research as, as gospel as you have it.
No, I wanna put the idea in your head and then you're like, well, maybe,
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: talk to somebody
Jay Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: so they can diagnose
Jay Aundrea: And here's the thing, it is not, it's a pattern of behavior. It's not, [00:34:00] all of this is a pattern of behavior over a long period of time, long period of time. By which I mean your whole life I was, I have had, I was born with a DHD. I've had it my entire life. I've had issues with attention and all of this my entire life.
It is a long pattern of behavior. It's not like, oh, that happens to me sometimes. Oh yeah, you know, I lose my keys a lot. Like it's not something that happens to you every once in a while. And also, if you are not being treated for, for neurodivergence, you'll notice. Like you have issues at school, at work, in your relationships.
Consistent issues with, with productivity, organization, time management, object permanence. Like you have these consistent issues. You've tried, you know, everybody's, oh, you just try these time [00:35:00] management techniques. Those are for neurotypical people. A lot of those techniques. Or for neurotypical people and, and people know, people who are neurodivergent know that you could try to start some, like say, oh, I'm gonna make sure that I put this in my calendar and check my calendar every day.
And you'll do it for a couple days, but then that novelty will wear off and it's again, now it's outta sight, outta mind and it, you fall off the wagon. Like it's, it is a consistent. Issues and difficulties and obstacles and things that you've experienced throughout your entire life. Not recently, not, you know, as, as a result of burnout or something like that.
So a lot of times people will talk about some of the symptoms of. Their neurodiversity and how they deal with it, and people will watch it and they'll say, oh, okay. That kind of sounds like me. I don't know. [00:36:00] That's kind of like, okay, but. You know, like once I started looking, once I was diagnosed and that actually came, I didn't ask for the diagnosis. I was just talking about some of my difficulties at work with my therapist, and she started asking more about my childhood and how did I do in school and with relationships and things, and then asked if I've ever been tested for A DHD. Now, a prior therapist had told me that I had. A DHD, but I thought that that therapist was a quack and I never, I never followed up on it. But now that it was being brought to my attention again, and I started to look into the literature about it and I realized this pattern of behavior throughout my entire life and. You know, I did, I had an, a, a clinical diagnostic assessment that you can go to a, a [00:37:00] specialist and have an assessment and it will tell you if you're neurodiverse, if you have a DHD, if you have autism, if you have a DHD, which is a mix of autism and A DHD.
You could be dyslexic, you could be, it's a, as a many things, right. But you gotta get. Get into and get a real clinical diagnosis for it, and it has to be a long pattern of behavior throughout your life.
Bruce Anthony: And not just you. If you're a parent, don't not get your kids tested because you don't want them to have some stigma attached to
Jay Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: because that's doing more harm to them than you helping them.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah, it is setting them back.
It's setting them back and it, and it affects their self-esteem and sense of self-worth. Like, for a long time I thought I was lazy. I used to, [00:38:00] people used to tell me, you got the attention of a gnat. Like, you know, like,
Bruce Anthony: i, I remember exactly who used to say that.
Jay Aundrea: Yes. You know, whenever I was given a task to do, our mom would call telling me, take the chicken out the freezer.
It never happened.
Never. It never, something shiny would catch my attention and it would be, it never happened. And there were, you know, there were just the, the difficulties I had in school, I mean, I was very lucky that I picked things up quickly because I had the damnedest time trying to sit and study. Because I couldn't sit still, I couldn't concentrate. I would read the same word, a same sentence over and over again. And so it's, it's a, like I said, it is an entire pattern of behavior throughout your life and to not acknowledge it, especially when you see it in your children or loved ones or something like that, and not doing anything about it is just going, they're just gonna. [00:39:00] Misinterpreted as some, something lacking on their part. And yeah, the, a lot of my issues with anxiety stem from being neurodivergent the early, you know, when I was younger, the issues with my self-esteem and self-worth stemmed from being neurodivergent. So yeah, when you see it, and honestly, look, some people are neurotypical. Some people are neurodivergent because you know why? Because humans are different. We're all different and we never, nobody, not everybody works the same way. Not everybody thinks the same way. There's no wrong way to think. There's no wrong way to be, and it's, oh, it, the more people talk about the things that they go through, the less stigma that they'll be.
So that's why I don't have a problem. I don't have a, I had a sign on my desk that said neurodivergent. There's [00:40:00] no wrong way to think. Like, I let people know I am neurodivergent. Sometimes I need more explanation of things. Sometimes it's, I, I have to take copious notes. I have to put stickies everywhere. I have to do this, like I have to work a little differently. wrong with it. I just need you to know I work a little differently.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's one of the reasons why I wanted to do that. Another, another thing that. I think is important to let people know is that just because there are some things that affects neo divergent people more than non neo divergent people, it, everybody experiences it. Lemme
give you a prime example worms
Jay Aundrea: Yes.
Bruce Anthony: ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know what an air worm is.
You've definitely experienced it. You ever [00:41:00] had part of a song stuck in your head all day long, a jingle, a television line or quote,
something that's been stuck in your head
Earworms: When Songs Get Stuck in Your Head 🎵🐛
Bruce Anthony: all day long and you can't get it out? That's a air worm. It's not a, a literal worm.
It's. It's. something phrase music, what have you, that's stuck in your head and repeated all day.
90% of the individuals in the world experience that it is a common thing
now when you're neurodivergent. You're affected a little bit differently.
Some studies reports say neurodivergent individuals, including those with A DHD, may experience earworms more intensely or find them more intrusive or distressing, perhaps due to differences in attention regulation, working memory, and psychological flexibility.
However, such links are not exclusive to A DHD and often overlap with. [00:42:00] Traits found in OCD or autism. So just because you have a little bit of
op,
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: that don't mean you have a DHD.
Just because you experience Earworms
that don't mean you have, doesn't mean you autistic,
right? I'm a need, just like as my sister said, when you experience these things over the course of your life,
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: then.
to a therapist, get tested,
Jay Aundrea: You
don't, you don't catch a DHD like, right, like you're born with it. Like it's, it's that you're born neurodiverse. It is just the way your brain is wired, so it's gonna be things you experience in the entirety of your life.
Bruce Anthony: And, and I wanna make this real, I can't stress this enough, misinformation about A DHD symptoms, including claims about earworms. 'cause that's, that's one of the things that I was like, everybody got an earworm. [00:43:00] It affects. Divergent people differently,
but often these claims are spread through social media, but medical experts emphasize that self-diagnosis based on ill worms or any of these things is inaccurate and misleading.
Stop diagnosing
yourself
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: and stop throwing around stuff. So flippantly, I'm getting really sick of people thrown around. Yeah. I'm a little autistic. Like, have you been tested? Like, have, has a therapist said this to you?
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: it's all a spectrum. Not everybody's on the spectrum.
Jay Aundrea: No, it's a spectrum. Everybody's on it
Bruce Anthony: I, well,
hmm.
Jay Aundrea: I mean, but, but the spectrum goes from neurotypical to extreme neurodivergence,
Bruce Anthony: Right.
Jay Aundrea: the spectrum.
Bruce Anthony: Oh, what I mean is
they.
Jay Aundrea: on the autism spectrum. Yes,
Bruce Anthony: And, and, and people want to place themselves on this. I was like, [00:44:00] has a therapist said that? No. It's just, you know, and, and, I, and, and don't throw that around fi flippantly. It's disrespectful to those people. Who actually suffer from autism or OCD or a DHD. Just because you having a rough day or a rough
week doesn't mean that you include yourself with the, these group of people that have, I don't even want to say it's a affliction 'cause I don't think that's the right word.
Differences.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, differences. So stop it,
Jay Aundrea: Yeah,
it's, it is really annoying. It is really annoying
Bruce Anthony: That's including me.
Jay Aundrea: because it's something I. I like actively work on every single moment of the day. Like today I had a bunch of like tasks I had to do, Aaron. So I have my phone in my hand the entire day, open to my notes with my to-do list so I don't forget anything and I get [00:45:00] to check stuff off.
That gives me a sense of accomplishment. It makes it a little bit novel for me. I got most of the stuff checked off. I'm, I'm feel, you know, I feel good about my day, but it's an active. Thing that I have to do every day. Like I'm always thinking about how I navigate certain life, right? Most effectively, and how I can get stuff done. On time,
Bruce Anthony: Yeah.
Jay Aundrea: you know, so it's, it's really annoying when people are like, yeah, I don't know. I think I'm a little A-D-H-D-I could not pay attention to what he was saying at all.
No, it was just boring. That
Bruce Anthony: yeah.
Jay Aundrea: like,
that's not,
Bruce Anthony: that's not the same
thing.
Jay Aundrea: not the same.
Bruce Anthony: Accept everybody
for who they are. Speaking of that, what happens when an actor is asked to play a role that they're not comfortable with? We're gonna get into that next.
[00:46:00]
Bruce Anthony: All right, Jay, you know who Clifton Powell is, right?
Jay Aundrea: Yes. Pinky.
Bruce Anthony: Pinky, if y'all seen next Friday and Friday after next.
You know who Pink he is. Clinton Powell started his acting career in 1980s, early nineties, in late eighties, early nineties, often appearing in support roles. He had his breakout role and menace to society where he snitched dead presidents.
Oh, you can't forget about him and dead presidents when he smacked my man down them stairs. He was also in Ray when he was Ray Charles, road manager. It's appeared in numerous television shows like Black Lightning, Jamie Fox Show, the Parkers Saints and Centers. You know, he even was Big Smoke and San Andreas.[00:47:00]
He's got a.
He's got a legendary acting career. He was recently being interviewed by the Art of Dialogue show,
show, podcasts, more of a show than a podcast, but they'll put it out in podcast for him. And he said something that I thought was interesting. I'm just gonna summarize. A part of the interview, he spoke candidly about his personal and professional boundaries as an actor.
He explained that while he respects the craft and other actors' choices, he will not take roles that force him into situations that make him deeply uncomfortable, particularly those involving same sex intimacy or extreme violence against women. He stressed that it's not rooted in any type of homophobia.
But it's his own personal comfort level and sense of identity. Now, Jay, when we were talking about this, I said, you know, you're gonna be interested in my take and I'm gonna get to my take. But you saw the video,
what did you think about what [00:48:00] he said?
Jay Aundrea: Yeah, I didn't see anything wrong with it. It's, it, you know, it's, you can be an ally and supportive of a community and. Not be a part of that community. And like I, if, if he has an issue with certain kinds of intimacy or with violence or things like that, okay. That's his personal choice. He doesn't have to do it. You know, you don't, you don't have to do, uh uh. A, a film, like it's not, nobody's holding a gun to this man's head and telling him he has to do you, he has a right to say, I'm not comfortable with the, you know, the content of the film or of this role or things like that. I've seen a lot of films where I'm like, Hmm, I wish they didn't make that. You know, like,
Bruce Anthony: They all on tub.
Jay Aundrea: pretty much. And then I've seen, you know, I've seen [00:49:00] people act in roles that. Are completely opposite of who they are as a person. I think Jamie Fox had a really, interesting story about how Leonard DiCaprio wrestle with his role in Jengo and who he had to be in that film. So, you know, some people decide to take the roles on and try to give life to these characters as best they can, and some people are not in a position. Whether it's like emotionally or physically or whatever to, to, give life to these characters. It's just not, it's not something that they're, maybe he's capable of it, but he doesn't want to, and that's okay. Like I don't care. I don't care.
Bruce Anthony: I completely agree with you. I was looking at this and it's like, yo, yo, if you're not comfortable, you're not comfortable. I know if I was an actor, I would not feel comfortable kissing another man. [00:50:00] Doesn't mean I'm homophobic. I'm not, I would not feel comfortable kissing another man. Guess what?
Wouldn't feel comfortable kissing a lot of things,
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: you know? So I agree with the fact that it is okay for him not to feel comfortable. I don't agree with the fact where he says he is not homophobic. Because one of the statements that he made, he said, I, you know, they wanted me to play a gay gangster, and I've never known any gay gangsters.
And I'm like, no, no, they're absolutely been gay
gang gangsters. And they bring up Wayne Perry, who's right here in the DC area. Used to run with Alpo, was Alpos Hitman. Wayne Perry is a, he's Omar almost, he's almost,
he's almost Omar from the Wire. Like he was absolutely bisexual.
Jay Aundrea: also gay?
Bruce Anthony: I mean, if you're bisexual, you're gay.
So you could be a gay gangster. So some of this stuff, and, and, and I, and I equating, equating two men kissing each other with [00:51:00] violence towards women is not
Jay Aundrea: Yeah, I didn't love that. I didn't love
Bruce Anthony: But not everybody has the, not everybody can articulate what they feel when they're placed in an uncomfortable situation.
Jay Aundrea: Mm-hmm.
Bruce Anthony: I'll give you an example. I wanted to give Snoop Dogg Grace for his recent comments that he had on a podcast about the Lightyear movie. He said he was taking his grandson to the Lightyear movie. Did you hear about this?
Jay Aundrea: Yes,
Bruce Anthony: Okay. Now did you actually see the clip or did you hear, did you read the words from the clip?
Jay Aundrea: I heard about it. I
didn't see the clip or read a
Bruce Anthony: So when you hear about what Snoop said, Snoop was like, yo, I didn't come here for this. You know, I didn't come here to see two women kissing and having to explain it to my grandson. When you read him, you're like, oh, Snoop, that's. That's the wrong position to take when you actually see the clip.
He's come, it, it's [00:52:00] not, he's not talking about that. He's talking about how his grandson wouldn't let it go in the movie theater. He's telling him to shush because he is being loud in the movie theater and you know how little kids get a bug up there, but, and they just like, well, no, I wanna know. I wanna know.
And he is like, I'm not trying to have this conversation right now here in this moment. That's how it actually came off of the clip. However, I gave him Grace on that 'cause I was like, yeah, that's. A tough situation to be in with your grandson, to have that conversation in a public setting when you're supposed to be quiet and watching a movie 'cause you're
Jay Aundrea: It's, it's not that hard. It's that the, these two characters are in love.
Bruce Anthony: It's Snoop Dogg. I don't know if he can say that right off the top of his head. I want to give him grace and not being able to say and address it right then and there.
Jay Aundrea: Yeah.
Bruce Anthony: theater.
Jay Aundrea: Okay. Sure.
Bruce Anthony: Okay. Then he, then he did his apology because he got attacked by, the [00:53:00] LGBTQ plus community because most people didn't see the clip.
And if you see the clip, it, it's not him being bothered by. Two women in the movie. It's him being bothered that he has to quiet his grandson down in the movie theater and have this type of conversation.
But when he apologizes, then he says, why are we putting this in the movies? Kids should just be able to go to cartoon.
And I was like, no, you was right on the first clip.
All you had to do was tell people, listen to that clip. Then when you tried to apologize and explain, you made it worse. Some people put in certain situations, don't know how to respond properly. So I wanna give Clinton power a little bit of grace that he compared two men kissing to extreme violence to women.
I, I, I think he was just trying to say, I, there's a lot
Jay Aundrea: There's a, there's a list of
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, but those, those two correlations just doesn't work.
Jay Aundrea: I will say that. Just kind of [00:54:00] piggybacking off, off of your, thoughts about homophobia. So the, the absence of you like doing anything or feeling anything about people being gay does not mean that you're not homophobic.
Bruce Anthony: Hmm. Hmm.
Jay Aundrea: It means that in just in your everyday life, you might not encounter many people who are LGBTQ plus, so you don't think about it, right?
It's an outta sight outta mind type thing. Or you, there aren't a whole lot of protests around you, so
Bruce Anthony: Object per.
Jay Aundrea: Yes, op. But like, so it, it, it is not, there's not like a daily impact on your life, so you don't ever have to really interrogate your [00:55:00] feelings about homosexuality. So you just assume that you are not homophobic because you never think about it. But if you actually sat down and think about it. You are Because the fact of
Bruce Anthony: You never put to you, you haven't been put to the test to see what you, what you.
Jay Aundrea: because the fact of the fact of the matter is there's nothing wrong with kissing a person like it. You kiss your parents, you kiss your relatives, kiss your friend like so. To say I'm uncomfortable with kissing a man. That's not really true. Right? Like
maybe
Bruce Anthony: that's,
Jay Aundrea: maybe like a romantically and something like that.
Okay. But like the question then is, is why, what about intimacy with somebody with the same sex as you bothers you? Why [00:56:00] is that a boundary for you? Why is that? Something that makes you uncomfortable crossing. Why is simple human interaction a boundary for you? That's the thing that I would
interrogate, not, you know, you don't have to take a role, you don't have to do it, but if you are deeply uncomfortable with just intimacy between two people. It doesn't say anything about your own sexuality. You're playing a role. You're not playing yourself. It's not Clifton Powell as Clifton Powell, a gay man. Like that's not what it, that's not what it is,
Bruce Anthony: That would be a good movie. I actually would watch that.
Jay Aundrea: right,
Bruce Anthony: Clinton Powell in Clinton, Powell's a gay man. That's,
Jay Aundrea: I, I could see why you wouldn't wanna [00:57:00] do a role that features violence against women, right?
Because violence against women is wrong, but same sex intimacy is not wrong. So I don't, so I think what he should do instead of telling everybody about this, when no one asked,
I'm sorry, you, you said honestly. No one asked. But since you wanna tell us all of this, I, what I would say back to you is, why does homosexuality have an impact on your own personal comfort and your sense of identity? You, you need to, 'cause
I,
Bruce Anthony: you saying that people are not allowed to feel uncomfortable about certain things?
Jay Aundrea: No, that's not, that's not what I'm
[00:58:00] saying. Uh, you can, you can absolutely feel uncomfortable, you, but the next step to that is to ask yourself why.
Bruce Anthony: well, I, so why am I uncomfortable watching or having to see two ugly people make out? Because it's just uncomfortable to me. You ugly.
Jay Aundrea: Sure
if
Exploring Comfort Zones & Personal Boundaries 🎯💫
Bruce Anthony: I say it's a serious thing. It makes me uncomfortable. Like if I see two attractive people making out, oh, they in love. If I see two ugly people, I'm like, oh damn, love. Can they take that somewhere else? I mean, I guess I'm always like taking it somewhere
Jay Aundrea: Well, everybody
wants to see what they find aesthetically pleasing. Nobody wants to see, like, if you don't like horror movies,
if you
Bruce Anthony: actually,
Jay Aundrea: and things like
that, then then don't watch gory movies, right? Like you don't find the blood and the viscera and all of that stuff. Pleasing to look at [00:59:00] or interesting, or exciting or whatever to look at.
Look at it. Don't watch it. Like you don't have to. There's no reason why you can't, you can be uncomfortable,
Bruce Anthony: you could just read Wikipedia for the scary movies. That's how I know about all the songs. I'm not
Jay Aundrea: Right. Right. So I don't, it's, my question is not my, my criticism is not that he's uncomfortable, it's. It's just for him to push a little further and ask why. And the only reason why I would encourage him to do so is because he is the one that professed that he is not homophobic.
Bruce Anthony: Mm-hmm.
Jay Aundrea: So if you're not homophobic, if you, as you say, you don't have a problem with, with gay people, trans people, then nobody, you're not bigoted.
If you're saying you're not bigoted, then what about. Same sex intimacy makes you uncomfortable. And if you are an ally to the community [01:00:00] like you say you are. If he hadn't said that part, I'd be like, okay, he's uncomfortable. Okay, whatever. Nobody, nobody really cares. I mean, I'm sure somebody out there cares, but nobody, I don't care,
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, well, I mean I cared just 'cause I wanted to bring it up and talk about it. 'cause I thought this was an interesting conversation.
Jay Aundrea: right? But it like. Kissing, somebody of the same sex for a role says nothing about your personal sexuality.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, I
would've, I would've rolled with him if he said something, if he said, well, maybe because I identify with this. If he had said, look, I don't wanna play a role where I'm kissing men, or I'm intimate with uh uh.
Overweight people or ugly people or something like that. Like if it was [01:01:00] a multitude of, these are the parameters of which I don't want to express intimate. If he said, I don't want to do intimate scenes because I love my wife,
Jay Aundrea: Right.
Bruce Anthony: I'd been cool with that, but it, he didn't say that. He said.
Men and then I don't wanna take no roles while I'm touching and hitting on women.
I'm like that, that, that's a
Jay Aundrea: Anymore.
Bruce Anthony: anymore. Hey Clinton, Powell, Clifton Powell, I'm not knocking you. I enjoy your work. I mean, you was deadly on the TV show rock, you know, but you had to change your heart after you got shot. And you say that kid, but I'm just saying I'm probably a little difficult to, to follow your logic here.
And I know that caught you on the spot. But maybe you want to think out more, like my sister says about, you know, what's going on in your head, why are you absolutely opposed to this? It seem like not opposed to anything else romantically on [01:02:00] screen, just specifically
this.
Jay Aundrea: that you call it a boundary, first of all, that's not what boundaries are. Not wanting to do something
Bruce Anthony: yeah. Not wanting
Jay Aundrea: not a.
Bruce Anthony: be a boundary.
Jay Aundrea: No, it boundaries in this, in that context, like,
and when we talk about it a boundary in the psychological context, it is, it is the line in which if another person crosses it, there will be a consequence for that person, for that action.
Like that's what a boundary is. You set a boundary. In that way, like there's no consequence to anyone. For him not taking a role,
it's not really a boundary. You just don't wanna do it.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah, he just don't wanna do it. That's all.
Jay Aundrea: You don't wanna do it. You, and you have to, I, I think if you're going to say, I'm not homophobic, if you're gonna say that, but in the same breath, say I'm uncomfortable with same sex [01:03:00] intimacy. Those two ideas. I don't know that they really, I don't know that they really can coexist.
Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, this was a heavy episode. I, you know, I tried to throw in a couple more jokes, but you know, every now and then I wanted to teach you. I knew as I was preparing the show, we hadn't done this in a little while. We took a little break and so I knew this was gonna be heavy. I just didn't realize it was gonna be so heavy.
But it is what it is. Y'all still listened up to this point, Jay. What you gotta tell people out there?
Jay Aundrea: I ain't got nothing. I feel like I said enough. Y'all got it. Go rewind back. Listen to some of the little sound bites. I feel like there was something in there somewhere. Just, you know, you listen to the episode if you know what I said.
Bruce Anthony: Look, I said what I said
Jay Aundrea: said what?
Bruce Anthony: on, on that note, ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you for listening. I want to thank you for watching, and [01:04:00] until next time, as always, I'll holler.
Wrapping Up: Final Thoughts & Takeaways 🎬✨
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